Portable Power Packs - LifePo4 Battery Boxes -- How I done It --
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hoddo
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I’m looking to get my first power station. Am I best waiting for Black Friday, does these companies offer good deals around that time
Also, it is possible to recharge my leisure battery with the power station or possibly even use the power station to power the van?
I’m not experienced with electrical setups so go easy.
Thanks!
Also, it is possible to recharge my leisure battery with the power station or possibly even use the power station to power the van?
I’m not experienced with electrical setups so go easy.
Thanks!
start with what you want to do with the box, . . .
that will give you an idea of the size of power pack you need.
so what do you want to power or charge?
yes you can charge the van, see here : Dellmassive’s "How I Done It" blogs.
hoddo
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Primary purpose is charging the van when off grid to extend days.
Secondary purpose is a whole host of practical solutions for camping and domestic uses but all secondary to the first goal.
I had considered just doing a fancier van set up but then I don’t have a useful power station to use around the house and camping with the kids
@hoddo - have you got a leisure system already?
charging the van with a Power pack can be done, but its not very efficient.
I've done it here :
www.t6forum.com
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you might be better off with some solar for trickle charging the starter?
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www.t6forum.com
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but having said all that . .
mu current favourite PPP is the EcoFlow Delta 2.
and if you need more run time, then the delta 2 max . . . .
charging the van with a Power pack can be done, but its not very efficient.
I've done it here :
[Guide] Battery Maintainer (for Starter battery) -- How I Done It --
[Guide] Battery Maintainer (for Starter battery) -- How I Done It -- Right so its that time of year again . . . . . . . . Winter & (Lockdown 2020) The van might be layed up not being used, which will lead to a flat battery in around 3 weeks. The cold weather doesn't help the battery's...
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you might be better off with some solar for trickle charging the starter?
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[Guide] Mobile Solar Panels ? . . . - How I Did It -
Mobile Solar Panels ? . . . - How I Did It - There is loads of background to this . . . . . but for now here is a vid for you all. =] Just remember W = V*A and as a general rule a good 100W panel will give you up to 6A charge with good sun. 25w = 1.5A 50W = 3A 100w = 6A 200w = 12A 300w = 18A...
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but having said all that . .
mu current favourite PPP is the EcoFlow Delta 2.
and if you need more run time, then the delta 2 max . . . .
hoddo
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Yes. We have a current Lesiure system.@hoddo - have you got a leisure system already?
charging the van with a Power pack can be done, but its not very efficient.
I've done it here :
[Guide] Battery Maintainer (for Starter battery) -- How I Done It --
[Guide] Battery Maintainer (for Starter battery) -- How I Done It -- Right so its that time of year again . . . . . . . . Winter & (Lockdown 2020) The van might be layed up not being used, which will lead to a flat battery in around 3 weeks. The cold weather doesn't help the battery's...
..
you might be better off with some solar for trickle charging the starter?
..
[Guide] Mobile Solar Panels ? . . . - How I Did It -
Mobile Solar Panels ? . . . - How I Did It - There is loads of background to this . . . . . but for now here is a vid for you all. =] Just remember W = V*A and as a general rule a good 100W panel will give you up to 6A charge with good sun. 25w = 1.5A 50W = 3A 100w = 6A 200w = 12A 300w = 18A...
.
but having said all that . .
mu current favourite PPP is the EcoFlow Delta 2.
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and if you need more run time, then the delta 2 max . . . .
View attachment 218843
What makes the Delta 2 your favourite?
A good balance of capacity, features and inverter power.... It's perfect for camping, but we always run it flat, so need a buffer battery and solar to last a long weekend.
hoddo
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Brilliant. Thank you.
Do EcoFlow typically do good offers around Black Friday or is that a solid deal?
There always doing deals...but BF might be best?
nice. .
Regarding solar do i have to buy an EF solar panel to go with my EF DELTA 2 or can i use something like this?
I would like something to top up the DELTA 2 when camped up.
I would like something to top up the DELTA 2 when camped up.
you can any panel, provided its within the Solar PV input range of the Delta2 ( upto VOC max )
PPP fast charge . . . EF Delta2 in this example.
using a step up voltage converter. . . 410w charge rate.
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get yours here:
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and the xt60i cable . . .
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feedback quote:
"The XT60i connector on this cable has an extra pin. This pin is detected by the Ecoflow power bank and will remove the current limit on the input. If you look at the car charging cable it does not have the extra pin, so the power bank will limit the current to prevent blowing fuses (or burning up wiring) on a car's 12VDC power plugs.
I'm using this with a roof rack mounted solar panel on my Jeep Cherokee. Generates power all day and works just fine."
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using a step up voltage converter. . . 410w charge rate.
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get yours here:
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and the xt60i cable . . .
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feedback quote:
"The XT60i connector on this cable has an extra pin. This pin is detected by the Ecoflow power bank and will remove the current limit on the input. If you look at the car charging cable it does not have the extra pin, so the power bank will limit the current to prevent blowing fuses (or burning up wiring) on a car's 12VDC power plugs.
I'm using this with a roof rack mounted solar panel on my Jeep Cherokee. Generates power all day and works just fine."
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so it looks like the EF Delta2 has a FW tweek to limit the incoming charge current?
or maybe it was always like it?
either way. . . the voltage boost seems to be a viable way to increase the charge rate to a Delt2 and other PPP boxes.
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but you need the right DC IN cable, for the EF Delta2 anyway.
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looks like you will need a 30A @ 12v (410w) feed from the starter battery. to the Victron Orion Booster,
that will then give you 15A @ 30v (410w) on its output side to charge the Delta2.
or maybe it was always like it?
either way. . . the voltage boost seems to be a viable way to increase the charge rate to a Delt2 and other PPP boxes.
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but you need the right DC IN cable, for the EF Delta2 anyway.
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looks like you will need a 30A @ 12v (410w) feed from the starter battery. to the Victron Orion Booster,
that will then give you 15A @ 30v (410w) on its output side to charge the Delta2.
An XT60i connector is known connector though, normally the extra pin is used either for a temperature sensor or 1 wire serial so a charger can talk to a BMS.
blog.ampow.com
Not sure what Ecoflow is doing with it here, if someone has the official lead it might just be connected to ground or have a known resistance in it. If so making up an adaptor wouldn't be too hard.
XT60H vs XT60 vs XT60I Connector - Ampow Blog
The XT60H and XT60I are variants of the XT60, also known as the XT60+. They do not differ much in shape but differ in detail. If you are interested in these, I will explain them in detail below. What are you waiting for? Let's learn about them together.
blog.ampow.com
Not sure what Ecoflow is doing with it here, if someone has the official lead it might just be connected to ground or have a known resistance in it. If so making up an adaptor wouldn't be too hard.
I'm fairly sure I have that lead with the xt60i.... I think it comes with the delta2 with the mc4 connectors on.An XT60i connector is known connector though, normally the extra pin is used either for a temperature sensor or 1 wire serial so a charger can talk to a BMS.
XT60H vs XT60 vs XT60I Connector - Ampow Blog
The XT60H and XT60I are variants of the XT60, also known as the XT60+. They do not differ much in shape but differ in detail. If you are interested in these, I will explain them in detail below. What are you waiting for? Let's learn about them together.
Not sure what Ecoflow is doing with it here, if someone has the official lead it might just be connected to ground or have a known resistance in it. If so making up an adaptor wouldn't be too hard.
But with all the xt60 stuff I have it all get mixed up.
I'll have to have a look.
It would be an easy task to make up link lead to connect.... In my case Anderson to mc4.
Or like the guy in the video just cut the mc4 ends off and hard wire the Victron booster with ring terminals.
I'm seriously thinking about getting this setup for the EF delta2 and other packs I have.
Not cheap though..... The Vic Orion voltage booster.
Stuff that handles serious amps never is, or if it is I wouldn't trust it. What a friend calls "reassuringly expensive"
this looks interesting . . .
hot swappable batterys for a power pack and fridge.
AC180T
Battery
Capacity1,433.6Wh (716.8Wh / 28Ah x 2 pcs)
Life Cycles3,000+
TypeLiFePO₄
Management SystemBLUETOPUS AI-BMS
Output
AC Outlets4 x 230V/15A Outlets
1,800W in total (w/ 2 batteries / grid)
1,200W in total (w/ 1 battery or no grid)
Power Lifting Mode2,700W
Input
AC Input1,440W Max. (w/ 2 batteries)
850W Max. (w/ 1 battery)
Solar Input500W Max.
General
Hot SwappableYes
Warranty5 Years
hot swappable batterys for a power pack and fridge.
Specs
AC180T
Battery
Capacity1,433.6Wh (716.8Wh / 28Ah x 2 pcs)
Life Cycles3,000+
TypeLiFePO₄
Management SystemBLUETOPUS AI-BMS
Output
AC Outlets4 x 230V/15A Outlets
1,800W in total (w/ 2 batteries / grid)
1,200W in total (w/ 1 battery or no grid)
Power Lifting Mode2,700W
Input
AC Input1,440W Max. (w/ 2 batteries)
850W Max. (w/ 1 battery)
Solar Input500W Max.
General
Hot SwappableYes
Warranty5 Years
Interesting to see the cost of the cooler. Never sure why they have an ice facility, seems to add more cost.
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