[Guide] Clayton LPS II 2500 - 1kWh (leisure battery + Inverter) -- How I Done It --

[Dellmassive]

As a thought if you have a number of your power boxes you don't need to have all the power in one place and distribute it at 12v the way you do 240v, you can have small zones around a power box.

That may make more efficient use of the stored charge.

This is the way I run the event PA, each amp point has an 18l Really Useful Box with 40Ah or so of SLA in on Andersons

we have done something similar before, at summer camp. . .



the main van + Tent was setup with.

twin 100ah battery boxes, 400w solar and the Anker 757.



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we had some interesting Inverter efficientcy numbers to tried some smaller mini inverters. . . like the cracking little 300w Bestek.




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then we had the DiscoTent powered off another two battery boxes. .

and another 400w solar

and a EF River Pro for mains. . .



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we was running 1000w JBL PRX PA speaker up,

with some LED DMX lights,

and a couple of MINI Moving heads,

plus the love island style lights.

and, and , and , and. . . . . . . .






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even with all this, we still had to use the vans dc-dc charger to try and recharge some of the boxes. . . during the day.






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even with 800w solar,

and 600ah lithium . .


we still run out of power. . . . .LOL.

 

[Dellmassive]

we have done something similar before, at summer camp. . .



the main van + Tent was setup with.

twin 100ah battery boxes, 400w solar and the Anker 757.

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we had some interesting Inverter efficientcy numbers to tried some smaller mini inverters. . . like the cracking little 300w Bestek.

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then we had the DiscoTent powered off another two battery boxes. .

and another 400w solar

and a EF River Pro for mains. . .


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we was running 1000w JBL PRX PA speaker up,

with some LED DMX lights,

and a couple of MINI Moving heads,

plus the love island style lights.

and, and , and , and. . . . . . . .


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even with all this, we still had to use the vans dc-dc charger to try and recharge some of the boxes. . . during the day.


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even with 800w solar,

and 600ah lithium . .


we still run out of power. . . . .LOL.



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the downside to all this is space in the van. . . .


the more kit you bring the more space you need.



now we have the BUS for your camping trips,

we have less space than ever.. . .




thankfully we have some Stella members that offer to help out and split the load.


so the Forum Gazebos are shared around @Jollyvan @Mick @czmate1999 @Dellmassive


this year will be the first full year with us in the BUS and not the VAN.

so i don't know how its going to go yet. . . . .





fingers crossed that we can fit it all in. . .

 

[Dellmassive]

-- NEW BT APP --


had a reply from Clayton - and its not good news. (unless you want to buy a new unit)

no BT remote or retro-fit will be offered.

the new units have a HW version Bump.



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"Apologies for the delayed response.

The bluetooth function comes with a new hardware version of the LPS. We are expecting it to come out around April time but a date hasn’t yet been confirmed. Unfortunately, it won’t be possible to plug in a separate module fo the same functionality.

As for the batteries, we are currently in the process of fulfilling some customer orders and once we have completed these, there will be stock available for sale. I expect this to again be around April.

Thanks

Kind Regards"


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[Dellmassive]

On the plus side the LPSII REMOTE arrived today.

so ill show that shortly.

 

[Dellmassive]

Final test numbers are in . . .

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i shut off the test at 12% because that's low enough for me. . . and running lithium's very low is not great for there health.

so 100% to 12% in a day and a half - exactly as the numbers and estimate worked out.

this box will drain itself flat in that time with the 240vac on.



so you need to:

just use 240ac as and when,

move over to 12vdc,

or recharge some % often. (at least every day)

or use a seperate inverter off the 12vdc side (this seems a bit daft - but I've done it before, using a small 300w inverter with much better efficiency, will last way longer ( just to run a couple of fridges - but wont run a kettle etc.)

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[Guide] Clayton LPS II 2500 - 1kWh (leisure battery + Inverter) -- How I Done It --

On mine it just looked like a wire from the Clayton with a piggy back fuse in the fuse box for an ignition feed. Took the fuse out and it stops the ignition feed to the Clayton allowing it to operate freely. I can just put the fuse back in if I want the ignition cutting it off again. Thanks...

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[Dellmassive]

LPSII REMOTE


so here its is. . . nice box well packaged.




you get a fair lenghth of cable. . . was it 5m?

attached to the remote,

with separate plug and mount bracket.





nothing much to see of the rear of the remote - a handy colour code guide. . .



there is only 3wires that connect to the LPSII,

so the grey/brown must be an output to switch something?

don't remember seeing anything about that before?

the plug terminals are super tiny flat head . .




plug wise . . .





just 3 wires to the LPSII




job done. . .




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i plugged it in the REMOTE port at the rear.

pressing the 12v button woke the unit up.

12v LED and SoC bar graph.



turning of the 240v as well we got more LED. . . . .





plugging in the BATTERY BOX to charge the LPSII.

we get a top 12v charge light that blinks. . . and the 12v ON/OFF blinks



disconnecting the charge source, we get back to a blank remote with all lights OFF.






FYI - I've disabled the JUMPSTART in the settings, as i dint want the unit to back feed into the lithium at any point....


but


in a standard install you press-hold the button to activate the feature. . . the unit will then dump a load of power into your starter battery - allowing you to jump start your own van. (assuming the unit has enough power)

how cool is that.

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its a shame they cant produce a new remote that adds BT + App, but if they say i cant be done, then we have to believe them.

but im sure there are some cleaver people that could reverse engineer something.

and make up a BT remote?

if the remote can have buttons and a SoC graph over a data link (CAN Bus i think)

when why cant we get some cleaver bods to data sniff the lines and get some code?

then write a simple BT APP Homebrew style?


maybe its already been done?

ClaytonPower LPSII hacking?


whos up for the challenge?


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[denz1968]

in a standard install you press-hold the button to activate the feature. . . the unit will then dump a load of power into your starter battery - allowing you to jump start your own van. (assuming the unit has enough power)

how cool is that.

I have used that in mine. I inadvertently left the lights on when working on the van one day. Clayton jump start to the rescue. Took between 4-5 minutes to give enough power to start the van

 

[Dellmassive]

more testing. . .

and it seems that the LPSII will cut out its charging when the IN voltage dropes below around 11.50v,


and wont restart charging till the voltage rises above 12.0v.




you also get a nice alarm message on the remote warning you that your effective starter battery is running flat.


run the battery box down to cut-out . . . . . .








and an interesting warning on the screen. . .







connecting a charger to the supply battery restores all the errors. . .






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[Qnapper]

Very interesting read and thank you for it. My God do you carry a load of kit......

Looks like the way ahead if your starting from scratch in a new vcan conversion, but for now I will keep using the 180amp LifePO battery under the seat and the 200 watt solar, works great in Spain (but that could change come April whilst we are in UK for 3/4 months.

 

[Dellmassive]

For Sale . . .

For Sale - Clayton LPS II 2500 - 1kWh (leisure battery + Inverter)

Clayton LPS II 2500 - 1kWh (leisure battery + Inverter) as new condition, less than 10x cycles. £2250 collected / plus shipping. +++++++++++++++++++++ see it in action here: https://www.t6forum.com/threads/guide-clayton-lps-ii-2500-1kwh-leisure-battery-inverter-how-i-done-it.47215/...

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[Dellmassive]

anyone looking for a Clayton?

For Sale - Clayton LPS II 2500 - 1kWh (leisure battery + Inverter)

Clayton LPS II 2500 - 1kWh (leisure battery + Inverter) as new condition, less than 10x cycles. £2250 collected / plus shipping. +++++++++++++++++++++ see it in action here: https://www.t6forum.com/threads/guide-clayton-lps-ii-2500-1kwh-leisure-battery-inverter-how-i-done-it.47215/...

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[Ian’s stuff]

On mine it just looked like a wire from the Clayton with a piggy back fuse in the fuse box for an ignition feed. Took the fuse out and it stops the ignition feed to the Clayton allowing it to operate freely. I can just put the fuse back in if I want the ignition cutting it off again.

Hi, I’m struggling to identify which fuse to use for the piggyback connection , do you have a photograph of the piggyback. Please
Regards, Ian

 

[Bundy88]

Hi, I’m struggling to identify which fuse to use for the piggyback connection , do you have a photograph of the piggyback. Please
Regards, Ian

Hi Ian,
Had a gander but I think they must have taken the piggyback connector out and put the original fuse back in as I have no spare piggyback plugged in now...just ones for the dashcam.
Presumably it was just off one that is an ignition live only....?
Cheers
Al