MOT: which class?
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Hi chaps - I just bought a used T32 4Motion - my V5C clearly states N1 - major bummer considering it's for family / leisure use only !
The N1 elements is a piece of EU legislation - I wonder if you could their contest this in a UK court of law if purportedly caught speeding ?
Ok. I'm new here and I am in the class 4 or class 7 quagmire as well. We have T6 T32 Kombi which as is pointed out above is a class 4. My question is: Once we convert to full camper knowing that we are no longer able to have the V5 re-classified as camper, do I loose my dual purpose and therefore making me subject to class 7 regs?
If it’s a camper it’s class 4 anyway regardless of what the V5 says. The vehicle is tested by the tester “as presented” so if you present it as a camper it will go through as class 4. Also, once it has been tested as class 4 (in its Kombi guise) the classification stays with it for life. So once tested as class 4, always tested as class 4.
Ok. I'm new here and I am in the class 4 or class 7 quagmire. We have T6 T32 Kombi which I assumed was subject to the normal MOT. Took the van to my local tyre place yesterday to look into getting some nice alloys fitted. Tyre guy told me I could not because my Kombi is subject to class 7 regs and the tyres on my new 19" alloys would not meet the load requirements - the load on the new tyres would be 105 whereas he's saying for my van I need 107.
Been to 4 MOT centres this morning to to try and get to the bottom of it and 2 are saying she's class 7, 2 are saying regardless of gross weight because she's dual purpose she's class 4.
I need to know what class she is for the purpose of getting the wheels changed - if she is class 7 then is a 105 load tyre not MOT legal. But more importantly - if she is class 4 then once we convert her to full camper knowing that we are no longer able to have the V5 re-classified as camper, do I loose my dual purpose and therefore making me subject to class 7 regs by default?
Can anyone help please? This seems like a total minefield....
TIA
Been to 4 MOT centres this morning to to try and get to the bottom of it and 2 are saying she's class 7, 2 are saying regardless of gross weight because she's dual purpose she's class 4.
I need to know what class she is for the purpose of getting the wheels changed - if she is class 7 then is a 105 load tyre not MOT legal. But more importantly - if she is class 4 then once we convert her to full camper knowing that we are no longer able to have the V5 re-classified as camper, do I loose my dual purpose and therefore making me subject to class 7 regs by default?
Can anyone help please? This seems like a total minefield....
TIA
Ask him where it is stated that a commercial vehicle must run 107-109 tyres?
Current thinking is min 103 as this supports the maximum permissible axle weight.
I'd take it to the MOT place that 'correctly' thinks it is a Class 4 as it is dual purpose.
I'm with you and I see no problem with what I want to do under class 4 regs and no reason why it should be a problem under class 7 regs.
I'm still not sure what class it falls into though - I've spoken with 3 VW commercial centres who do MOT's and they have all said she's a class 7?!
My old t32 kombi went through as a class 4 at the second time of trying. Usual place didn't want to agree that it was dual purpose and said it had to be class 7 which they couldn't do. Only one class 7 place local to me so booked it in, took it down there and they said it would go through as a class 4 so not even testers can agree.
My t32 kombi went through its first mot as a class 4 (which I believe then sets the class for all future mots) however, I had to use a test centre that does class 7 due to the weight limits on most lifts, even though the van wasn’t carrying any load the theoretical max weight would exceed the limits of most class 4 mot stations I spoke to so they couldn’t mot it...
Has anyone had a first MoT performed at a VW Van Centre?
Had an MoT booked for first thing Monday morning but annoyingly got a message this afternoon that they can't test it - I think because it's a T32 and technically it exceeds their lift limit.
So I need to re-book - am thinking of running up to Listers VW Droitwich.
Mine is a T32 Kombi now converted to a camper so am assuming it will be Class 4 as presented.
What is the real implication of Class 4 vs Class 7 though - is it cost, limitations on where it can be tested, or something I'm missing completely?
Had an MoT booked for first thing Monday morning but annoyingly got a message this afternoon that they can't test it - I think because it's a T32 and technically it exceeds their lift limit.
So I need to re-book - am thinking of running up to Listers VW Droitwich.
Mine is a T32 Kombi now converted to a camper so am assuming it will be Class 4 as presented.
What is the real implication of Class 4 vs Class 7 though - is it cost, limitations on where it can be tested, or something I'm missing completely?
As far as I know - and the little I know I have learned since I picked up our 2018 T32 factory kombi 2 weeks ago - the only difference is the limitations on where you can get it tested. You need to be sure your tyres are correctly load rated - I don't think they check the wheels. Even the price you can get down to a class 4 price if you shop round. I think the test is essentially the same but for a higher weight vehicle. 50% of the places I tried said they would put it through as class 4 as it is dual purpose. The other 50% said class 7 as it's gross is 3200Kg. Both VW commercial centres I took it to that offer MOT's said class 7 due to gross weight regardless of the dual purpose angle. I went to them with a Kombi though, not a converted camper like yours.
Interesting thread, sorry to rake it over again. For an unconverted T32 Kombi, as best I can tell, it could be class 4 or 7 MOT depending on the exact specification of the van. That is because to qualify as a dual purpose vehicle and hence a class 4 MOT, the unladen weight has to be less than 2040kg. Looking at the 2018 T6 brochure (all weights include 75kg for the driver and 90% full fuel tank) most of the T32 models would just sneak in under 2040kg by the time you take off 75kg for the driver but a few don't. Essentially none of the 4Motion models come under 2040 less 75kg and neither does the 150ps DSG Highline LWB. I suppose some of it may also come down to how bothered the MOT station are to get an accurate unladen weight for the vehicle. Am I correct or have I missed something?
