All-Season Tyre recommendations

[Linoleum Bonypart]

Just been reading a tyre test the CC3 doesn’t have great snow result we makes me think will the tyre be any good in wet field tracks which is why I mainly choose a tyre

Michelin CrossClimate 3 and 3 Sport VS Rivals

I've performed the world's first test of the new Michelin CrossClimate 3 and CrossClimate 3 Sport all season tyres, putting them up against two of the leading competitors, the multiple test winning ...

www.tyrereviews.com

 

[Captain Quick]

Just been reading a tyre test the CC3 doesn’t have great snow result we makes me think will the tyre be any good in wet field tracks which is why I mainly choose a tyre

Michelin CrossClimate 3 and 3 Sport VS Rivals

I've performed the world's first test of the new Michelin CrossClimate 3 and CrossClimate 3 Sport all season tyres, putting them up against two of the leading competitors, the multiple test winning ...

www.tyrereviews.com

I read that tyre review and it’s why I opted to put a set of Agilis CrossClimates on my campervan. They seem to be really good on wet grass and perform well in the dry and wet.

 

[shropschris]

Agilis Crossclimate on mine , no trouble driving on non gritted country lanes in Snowy Shropshire

 

[racT6bus]

Nearly 3 years using Michelin CC2 SUVs on Navis MACs - really decent road grip, low noise, fine on muddy campsites and handled the snow and ice in the South of England recently with no issues. I'll be choosing them again when I need I eventually have to replace.

 

[Beng]

Nearly 3 years using Michelin CC2 SUVs on Navis MACs - really decent road grip, low noise, fine on muddy campsites and handled the snow and ice in the South of England recently with no issues. I'll be choosing them again when I need I eventually have to replace.

I second this. If you really want the best snow grip get a nordic compound tyre like Michelin X-Ice Snow that you just run for cold climate. But that of course is hassle and expensive. For UK and cold weather mixed conditions/ the odd alps trip, I've had great experience with the Michelin cross climate 2s.

 

[z1ts]

I think I'm leaning toward Michelin Agilis CrossClimate having read extensively the responses & recommendations on here!

Thanks all

 

[cgtmiles]

CC2, CC3, Agilis CC. What’s the difference? I assumed CC 3 was replacing the CC2 but it seems like they are sold along side each other and Agilis, what are they and how do they compare? Multiple people have said crossclimates are the best tyre option around but what’s the best of the best?

 

[Skyliner33]

CC2, CC3, Agilis CC. What’s the difference? I assumed CC 3 was replacing the CC2 but it seems like they are sold along side each other and Agilis, what are they and how do they compare? Multiple people have said crossclimates are the best tyre option around but what’s the best of the best?

To confuse it even more there are 2 versions of the CC3. "Normal' and Sport.

 

[rover220]

vector 4 seasons gen 3 have been brilliant on mine the last few days.

 

[Linoleum Bonypart]

Shame Agilis don’t do 18s

 

[T6ARF]

Shame Agilis don’t do 18s

Agreed!

 

[Lubrown]

CC2, CC3, Agilis CC. What’s the difference? I assumed CC 3 was replacing the CC2 but it seems like they are sold along side each other and Agilis, what are they and how do they compare? Multiple people have said crossclimates are the best tyre option around but what’s the best of the best?

Agilis is the commercial vehicle version so likely more plies in construction and it has a more heavy duty sidewall with wear blocks (for rubbing against kerbs). It looks a touch more rugged. West Midlands Ambulance service (and maybe others?) seem to run all their ambulance fleet on them year round.

CC is the car and SUV version with 2 being the outgoing model and 3 being the newcomer. As the new version isn’t available in all sizes yet, and stock of the older version isn’t exhausted they’ll be selling side by side for a while yet. I’ve heard early comments 3 isn’t as good as 2 in the snow - presumably as Michelin was losing ground against competition in the All Season market based on tests which likely are weighted towards wet and dry conditions with snow not weighted as heavily. AS are a compromise after all.

Tyre Reviews does some good summaries of all tests on their website plus do their own testing. They are on YouTube - well worth a watch. From memory Continental and Pirelli have done well the last couple of times but it depends what you want. On the website you can alter weightings of test scores to suit your needs.

 

[z1ts]

I think I'm leaning toward Michelin Agilis CrossClimate having read extensively the responses & recommendations on here!

Thanks all

It appears that the Michelin Agilis CrossClimate doesn't come in the exact tyre size currently fitted to the Caravelle..

Currently on 235/55 R17 103 H

Nearest I can find in Agilis CC is 235/60 R17 R (117)

Is the extra 5 percentage points of sidewall and increased speed/load rating going to cause any problems? (Aside from the obvious marginal increase in tyre rotation...)

 

[Ayjay]

@z1ts As mentioned in previous posts, I've got CC Agilis 215/60/17 on my van - the dash speedo shows about 2 MPH over the satnav readout at 70 MPH which I'm happy with (at least it's wrong 'in the right direction' when it to comes to speed limits, cameras etc. so might play a small part in keeping me out of more trouble with old bill)

 

[Lubrown]

It appears that the Michelin Agilis CrossClimate doesn't come in the exact tyre size currently fitted to the Caravelle..

Currently on 235/55 R17 103 H

Nearest I can find in Agilis CC is 235/60 R17 R (117)

Is the extra 5 percentage points of sidewall and increased speed/load rating going to cause any problems? (Aside from the obvious marginal increase in tyre rotation...)

117 is a huge load rating - you may find it quite a harsh ride.

 

[Sasquatch]

Just been reading a tyre test the CC3 doesn’t have great snow result we makes me think will the tyre be any good in wet field tracks which is why I mainly choose a tyre

Michelin CrossClimate 3 and 3 Sport VS Rivals

I've performed the world's first test of the new Michelin CrossClimate 3 and CrossClimate 3 Sport all season tyres, putting them up against two of the leading competitors, the multiple test winning ...

www.tyrereviews.com

Snow and mud work differently. Snow tyres the treads are designed to fill with snow, as snow-on-snow gives excellent grip, In mud you want mechanical grip, which means keeping the treads fairly clear to be effactive. Thefrore poor snow performance does not automatically make for poor soft ground performance.

 

[Linoleum Bonypart]

I guess we will never know then

 

[DaveD]

I guess we will never know then

I find CC2's very good in mud, CC3's look very similar in terms of self cleaning ability. I've yet to see any meaningful amount of snow so can't comment on that.

 

[Salty Spuds]

Been running Agilis for a couple of years now. Very happy with them, they’ve probably seen more snow than your average van.
This was today at the Col d’Larche between France and Italy. -11 outside

 

[david173]

Agreed

Been running Agilis for a couple of years now. Very happy with them, they’ve probably seen more snow than your average van.
This was today at the Col d’Larche between France and Italy. -11 outside

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4 motion or 2wd?