Fitting Caravelle seat rails

[Mupp3tt]

The 2 outer rails used 5x each of the smaller type brackets, the brackets are handed so 5x RH and 5x LH the 2x larger brackets were use on the 2 inner rails at the front they are different due to the type of cross member they bolt on to, I used two smaller brackets at the very rear of the inner rails 1x LH 1x RH the 5x remaining bolts on each of the inner rails do not require reinforcing brackets as the cross members on the T6 are already strengthened in those positions hope that makes sense?

The brackets listed by @andythom188 are the ones I used except the 7H0802369 Im guessing these maybe used in some places I have used the small RH & LH brackets that dont require the bracket to be shaped to sit over the seams?

I am looking to attempt this next week or this if I can get the brackets... don't suppose you have the part numbers for the ones you used as this will be in a t6 Kombi so as I understand there will be brackets to the front of the rails and rear but none in between? I'm using single rails as well that's what I Have! Anyone able to tell me the thickness of flooring they put in? I will be making my own. After doing the rails. I haven't tried to take the finishing plates off the rails but if there are any recommendations please shout up how to do that without damaging them.

 

[Mupp3tt]

Hi guys. I was given this by TPS anyone able to clarify what's needed for a single rail system?

 

[Coradia63]

Hi @Mupp3tt from your diagram I used brackets 1, 14 & 15 when I done mine I couldn’t find the info to exactly what was fitted where so I had to guess a bit the only brackets I have used which i dont think are correct are the ones fitted to the inner rails at the very rear I used 14 & 15 brackets but looking at the diagram I should of used 13 or 3 cant really tell from the diagram Im guessing the only difference is 14 & 15 have a small step where they sit on the chassis seams where as they should be flat photo attached are brackets 14 & 15 part no 7H0803547A & 7H0803548A, the large bracket 1 part no 7h0802763A

I take it you mean you have 4 single rails? They mount exactly the same the double inner rails just have the extra bit weld on the sides of the single rails no additional mounting bolts are used the outer rails use reinforcing brackets on every bolt the inner rails only need them at the first front bolt and the very rear bolt

To remove the rail covers is abit of a pain you have to remove the plastic end stops then remove the short covers by sliding them forward and they will pop out the long covers also slide forward and pop out but you need to lift the end slighly first as they sit on a locating pin then slide and they pop out

 

[Mupp3tt]

So what I think I've ordered are no1 x4 no14&15 x4 each and possibly 3 and 13. Came to £104 from Edinburgh tps. Stuart there was excellent which is more to be said fkr the guy in glasgow who would do nothing without a chasis number or vrm of a caravelle. also said if the parts are not meed to take them back .... top bloke

 

[Wills]

Does anyone have the part numbers for the square headed bolts and nuts used on the floor rails please?

 

[Wills]

Useful web site seat runner for sliding seat; D >> - ... Transporter (TR) 2013 year Volkswagen EUROPA 885080

 

[Coradia63]

Not sure what the correct part no is for the nuts & bolts as my rails already had them but you can buy them from banwy

WHT002653 Caravelle Bolts

 

[Coradia63]

Just noticed the link has shortened itself with the part no!

WHT002553 - bolt

Nuts
Nuts for Kombi Caravelle Seats

 

[Ads_Essex]

Hello, all. Now with Christmas out of the way I am looking to get on with installing a Cali bed as the next job. I say ‘the next job’ like I finished my last, but I haven’t (anyone good with auto electrics who’s able to advise on tailgate wiring, please get in touch).
Anyway, I’m just wondering if anyone has moved forward with their install.

Kernow have given me a price for a new bed and rails but said that I won’t need spreader plates, just nuts and bolts.

Did everyone else get theirs via Kernow or from another vendor?

 

[Commander1]

The reinforcing brackets how did you fit them or are they already in place please ?
If you fitted them in place yourself how do you know their locations for fitting please ?

 

[Wills]

Cali rails don't need the additional plates (Advised by 3 independent VW conversion specialists) However the Caravelle / double rails do > designed to carry more seats / load?
I fitted mine myself.
Positioning:
They naturally fit into the floor channels provided.
Location within the channels. Once you've removed the underfloor heat shields and plastic covers you'll see that the floor cross members already have holes stamped into them. It's a case of not all holes are used. I located the most forward securing hole and worked backwards. Don't fit them to close to the front seats as you'll not be able to install your bed using the access slots at the front. It's pretty damn close anyway!!
Once you know the floor anchor locations, you can work out which ones line up with the rail holes. Hope it makes sense.
Mine's a LWB and found they didn't totally match so drilled the rails (Square holes!!)

 

[Ads_Essex]

Cheers @Wills. They’re getting delivered this weekend so I’m keen to crack straight on with them.

 

[Craftervelle]

Hi guys,just signed up having just ordered a crafter with the intention of Fitting Caravelle seating.
Was wondering if anyone has a template/dimensional layout of the rail system, including fixing hole positions,centre to centre width etc. Any help much appreciated, or if you guys can just nudge me in the right direction.
Thanks
Alec.

 

[Deaky]

Hi guys,just signed up having just ordered a crafter with the intention of Fitting Caravelle seating.
Was wondering if anyone has a template/dimensional layout of the rail system, including fixing hole positions,centre to centre width etc. Any help much appreciated, or if you guys can just nudge me in the right direction.
Thanks
Alec.

I doubt anybody will have these. They’re not needed as the rails fit between set ribs in the floor on a Transporter.

 

[Craftervelle]

Oh well,back to the dealers with tape measure and notebook.

 

[Ads_Essex]

Try calling Colin at Oxford T5 - tell him what you’ve got in mind and he’ll probably be best placed to advise

 

[Stumacher]

Hi Guys , I currently in the process of fitting rails. The van is stripped ready to drill. The rails I have, seem to have 7 holes on the inner and 6 on the outer. I've been supplied with 5 nuts and bolts for the outer and 7 for the inner. So looking at the underside it seems that there isn't anywhere to attach a bolt, outrigger wise at the seat end, in what would be that 1st hole on the outer rails. So making 5 bolts for 6 holes correct... ?
Next the inner rails don't seem to have a stamped hole in the underbody on what would be their 7th hole back from the seats , the last hole. This area is the skinny cross member in the middle of where the spare wheel sits , is this correct I'd have to drill straight though the floor and this crossmember ? as it seems odd not to have a stamped marker.
Any help greatly appreciated.

 

[Ads_Essex]

Hi Guys , I currently in the process of fitting rails. The van is stripped ready to drill. The rails I have, seem to have 7 holes on the inner and 6 on the outer. I've been supplied with 5 nuts and bolts for the outer and 7 for the inner. So looking at the underside it seems that there isn't anywhere to attach a bolt, outrigger wise at the seat end, in what would be that 1st hole on the outer rails. So making 5 bolts for 6 holes correct... ?
Next the inner rails don't seem to have a stamped hole in the underbody on what would be their 7th hole back from the seats, the last hole. This area is the skinny cross member in the middle of where the spare wheel sits, is this correct I'd have to drill straight though the floor and this crossmember?
As it seems odd not to have a stamped marker.
Any help greatly appreciated.

Stu
I’ve not fitted Caravelle rails, but the Cali rails have an unused hole at the rearmost part (roughly where you describe as the spare-wheel area). There wasn’t a stamped marker on the body at that location either.

Do all the other holes like up with stamped markers?

 

[Stumacher]

Stu
I’ve not fitted Caravelle rails, but the Cali rails have an unused hole at the rearmost part (roughly where you describe as the spare-wheel area). There wasn’t a stamped marker on the body at that location either.

Do all the other holes like up with stamped markers?

All I've had so far is a 20 minute assessment once the belly pans were removed and yes all of the other holes do line up with the centre rails and there are pre drilled holes under the body that need drilling through to the top floor skin.
But I read they have 7 mounting points , there are 7 square holes in the centre rails and I've been supplied 7 mounting bolts so it's starting to look like both the floor skin and crossmember may need drilling.

The outer rail I can see on the images on the beginning of this thread seems to only have the five mounting points drilled (so I assume hole number one on the outer rails is redundant as no outrigger here) .
I've looked again at the image with the drilled holes and primer spots and i think I can see the 7th drill hole for the inner rail on the images showing the drill holes with primer spots (it through me a bit as I assume some holes were the factory kombi holes with no need for primer).
So again I'm assuming both crossmember and floor have to be drilled. Just wondered if anyone could confirm .

 

[Ads_Essex]

Just wondered if anyone could confirm .

I know who can - Colin @VWVC

You’re best ringing him as he’s a busy man who probably doesn’t get online much. He helped me with advice with mine even though I never bought them from him - 07799626310