similar on this other thread - T6 Kombi 2016 189 T32 Blue motion
so ill add the info i posted there here.
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CFCA then 180 Bi-Turbo ( is that the EU5 with no adblue?)
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could be worth a quick look here:
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk
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Before carrying out any tuning work we would recommend a compression test to ensure the engine is healthy, unless you are aware of the issue and have already taken preventative measures.
Compression Specifications:
Normal - 362 – 450 PSI
Min – 275 PSI
Maximum difference between cylinders – 75 PSI
We are now only offering tuning on the CFCA engines after a compression test has been carried out. We can offer this service from £150+ VAT on top of the tuning prices. (You would need to book in with us in advance)
Generally, our customers request us to remove the EGR cooler, blank the EGR and the remove the DPF to stop the DPF from becoming blocked. This is done to prevent irreversible damage caused by the CFCA EGR cooler failing.
Later Transporter 204bhp/199bhp and Amarok engines do not have the same EGR issues so we do not require a compression test before tuning.
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"Thanks it just feels like a gun against the head I do think I’m looking at the new engine and drive away with a “new” van the quote is showing replacing CFCA with CFCA so is that not just buying the same problem?"
- if the original problrm was the EGR failing, before revision D.
then you could assume that a NEW engine with a REV D or later EGR cooler would NOT have the same problems down the road - as VW have seen the problem a made revisions to fix the problem.
BUT,
If you replace with USED engine with an unknown history . . . then you may have the same problems later on.
are the CFCA blocks available from VW anymore? - or are the all recons these days?
no idea, though Darskide seem to imply that they are available, but its going to cost £12k for the full new engine with labour!
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www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk
This service comes complete with the following brand new parts needed to meet the requirments for the 2 year warranty;
Genuine VW Engine (exchange engine = we will require to send your old engine back to VW) complete with the following brand new parts;
Borgwarner Complete Turbocharger Unit
Genuine VW O2 / Oxygen Sensor
Genuine VW Thermostat
Genuine VW Cambelt Kit & Water Pump
Genuine VW Oil Filter
Genuine VW Fuel Filter
Genuine VW Air Filter
Any related / required Nuts / Bolts / Clamps / Gaskets
2WD Price for parts - £8500 + VAT
4WD Price for parts - £9800 + VAT
Price for Labour Front Wheel Drive - £1950 + VAT
Price for Labour 4 Wheel Drive - £2,100 + VAT
Total:
FWD - £10,450 + VAT / £12,540 Inc VAT
4WD - £11,900 + VAT / £14,280 Inc VAT
(All prices correct as of Feb 2024 - Subject to change)
**Please note, when swapping the engines on these vehicles, other parts are required to be removed. We can not always guarantee that some of these parts will be easily removed, and normally some parts may have become seized. This may result in further parts and labour costs if these parts cannot be salvaged**
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so ill add the info i posted there here.
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CFCA then 180 Bi-Turbo ( is that the EU5 with no adblue?)
+++++
could be worth a quick look here:
2.0 BiTDi Engines. What to know!
The idea of a 2.0 BiTDI Transporter or Amarok sounds great, and with quoted figures from the factory round the 180bhp mark, it sounds like the perfect platform to start with
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk
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Common Problems
The Transporter CFCA engine suffers with a problem with the EGR cooler (Google search CFCA EGR cooler, you'll find plenty of information!)Before carrying out any tuning work we would recommend a compression test to ensure the engine is healthy, unless you are aware of the issue and have already taken preventative measures.
Compression Specifications:
Normal - 362 – 450 PSI
Min – 275 PSI
Maximum difference between cylinders – 75 PSI
We are now only offering tuning on the CFCA engines after a compression test has been carried out. We can offer this service from £150+ VAT on top of the tuning prices. (You would need to book in with us in advance)
Generally, our customers request us to remove the EGR cooler, blank the EGR and the remove the DPF to stop the DPF from becoming blocked. This is done to prevent irreversible damage caused by the CFCA EGR cooler failing.
Later Transporter 204bhp/199bhp and Amarok engines do not have the same EGR issues so we do not require a compression test before tuning.
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"Thanks it just feels like a gun against the head I do think I’m looking at the new engine and drive away with a “new” van the quote is showing replacing CFCA with CFCA so is that not just buying the same problem?"
- if the original problrm was the EGR failing, before revision D.
then you could assume that a NEW engine with a REV D or later EGR cooler would NOT have the same problems down the road - as VW have seen the problem a made revisions to fix the problem.
BUT,
If you replace with USED engine with an unknown history . . . then you may have the same problems later on.
are the CFCA blocks available from VW anymore? - or are the all recons these days?
no idea, though Darskide seem to imply that they are available, but its going to cost £12k for the full new engine with labour!
===
2.0 BiTDi Engines. What to know!
The idea of a 2.0 BiTDI Transporter or Amarok sounds great, and with quoted figures from the factory round the 180bhp mark, it sounds like the perfect platform to start with
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Too Late?
For those not so lucky to catch it early, we now offer a full brand new genuine CFCA engine swap service. This is ideal for those happy to keep the van in its original spec. We can still offer our usual tuning and modifications but for obvious reasons this would void all warranty on the new parts.This service comes complete with the following brand new parts needed to meet the requirments for the 2 year warranty;
Genuine VW Engine (exchange engine = we will require to send your old engine back to VW) complete with the following brand new parts;
- Pistons
- Con Rods
- Crankshaft
- Oil Pump
- Oil Sump
- Engine Speed Sensor
- EGR Valve / Cooler
- Oil Cooler
- Cylinder Head
- Valves
- Camshafts
- Injectors
- Glow Plugs
- Vacuum Pump
Borgwarner Complete Turbocharger Unit
Genuine VW O2 / Oxygen Sensor
Genuine VW Thermostat
Genuine VW Cambelt Kit & Water Pump
Genuine VW Oil Filter
Genuine VW Fuel Filter
Genuine VW Air Filter
Any related / required Nuts / Bolts / Clamps / Gaskets
2WD Price for parts - £8500 + VAT
4WD Price for parts - £9800 + VAT
Price for Labour Front Wheel Drive - £1950 + VAT
Price for Labour 4 Wheel Drive - £2,100 + VAT
Total:
FWD - £10,450 + VAT / £12,540 Inc VAT
4WD - £11,900 + VAT / £14,280 Inc VAT
(All prices correct as of Feb 2024 - Subject to change)
**Please note, when swapping the engines on these vehicles, other parts are required to be removed. We can not always guarantee that some of these parts will be easily removed, and normally some parts may have become seized. This may result in further parts and labour costs if these parts cannot be salvaged**
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