It's fine..
No problem on an AGM..
An AGM is a type of SLA battery anyway..
Sealed lead acid.
No problem on an AGM..
An AGM is a type of SLA battery anyway..
Sealed lead acid.
Which Jump Starter?
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All the above are lead-acid batteries - just "technologies" inside but the basic components - lead electrodes + sulphuric acid + their chemical reactions are still the same on all of them.
GB70 is on sale on Amazon @ £122.40 if anyone is interested...
NOCO Boost HD GB70 2000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, And Jump Leads For Up To 8-Liter Gasoline And 6-Liter Diesel Engines: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
NOCO Boost HD GB70 2000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, And Jump Leads For Up To 8-Liter Gasoline And 6-Liter Diesel Engines: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
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I was just about to post the same. Getting myself one after a flat battery. Luckily I live near a garage but having read some posts it looks a must have tool for the box.
I bought a GB70 a while back and keep it one of the drawers in the Caravelle bed although it did fit,just,in the upper glove box of the comfort dash. Thankfully i have not had to use it on the van yet but did use it on our Qashqai and it worked a treat
If nothing else I can use it to charge the phone whilst away.
For what it's worth, Halfords 4 in 1 jump starter pack has served me well for 4 years. It's big and bulky but for extra power whilst camping is a bonus. Paid for itself many times over.
NOCO GB150 for the win . . . . . Again.
arrived at work at 7am . . . . double parked on a double yellow. . . . . .
so left the Hazards on and started unloading. . . . . .
6 hours later we had finished the job and had no ticket . . . . result i thought - free parking =] ( A rarity in London)
The Hazards were still flashing away, so in we jumped and went to start the van . . . . . Nothing !!! IT WAS DEAD AND DIDNT TURN OVER.
Out come the GB150 which i always have in the back, all charged and ready to go.
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connected it direct across the T6 battery for a quick jump start.
started straight away . . . Happy days.
we went to get the guys that were parked behind us to move there van . . . . . . . guess what !!!
same thing, there VW Crafter was dead too . . . . .
lucky we had the GB150 to hand.
The crafter had a remote battery somewhere, but WV had left jump point in the engine bay..
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so just connect up and boom started first time. ( The Crafter guys were well impressed )
and the GB150 was still showing 100% charge.
Happy days =]
off home we went for a Beer and a Pact on the back. - A Job well done.
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NOCO GB150
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NOCO GB70
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arrived at work at 7am . . . . double parked on a double yellow. . . . . .
so left the Hazards on and started unloading. . . . . .
6 hours later we had finished the job and had no ticket . . . . result i thought - free parking =] ( A rarity in London)
The Hazards were still flashing away, so in we jumped and went to start the van . . . . . Nothing !!! IT WAS DEAD AND DIDNT TURN OVER.
Out come the GB150 which i always have in the back, all charged and ready to go.
...
connected it direct across the T6 battery for a quick jump start.
started straight away . . . Happy days.
we went to get the guys that were parked behind us to move there van . . . . . . . guess what !!!
same thing, there VW Crafter was dead too . . . . .
lucky we had the GB150 to hand.
The crafter had a remote battery somewhere, but WV had left jump point in the engine bay..
.
so just connect up and boom started first time. ( The Crafter guys were well impressed )
and the GB150 was still showing 100% charge.
Happy days =]
off home we went for a Beer and a Pact on the back. - A Job well done.
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NOCO GB150
NOCO Boost Pro GB150 3000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, And Jump Leads For Up To 9-Liter Gasoline And 7-Liter Diesel Engines: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
NOCO Boost Pro GB150 3000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, And Jump Leads For Up To 9-Liter Gasoline And 7-Liter Diesel Engines: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
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NOCO GB70
NOCO Boost HD GB70 2000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, And Jump Leads For Up To 8-Liter Gasoline And 6-Liter Diesel Engines: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
NOCO Boost HD GB70 2000 Amp 12-Volt UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, And Jump Leads For Up To 8-Liter Gasoline And 6-Liter Diesel Engines: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
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carry cases,
NOCO GBC015 Boost Pro EVA Protection Case For GB150 NOCO Boost UltraSafe Lithium Jump Starter : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
NOCO GBC015 Boost Pro EVA Protection Case For GB150 NOCO Boost UltraSafe Lithium Jump Starter : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
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NOCO GBC014 Boost HD EVA Protection Case For GB70 NOCO Boost UltraSafe Lithium Jump Starter : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
NOCO GBC014 Boost HD EVA Protection Case For GB70 NOCO Boost UltraSafe Lithium Jump Starter : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
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And GB70 currently £135.99 at Amazon. Not quite as good as the £113 as above but still seems quite a good deal.
@Dellmassive or anyone else with experience of the NOCO - how do you think the LIDL £44.99 job would compare?
www.lidl.co.uk
@Dellmassive or anyone else with experience of the NOCO - how do you think the LIDL £44.99 job would compare?
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank -
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank - 2-in-1: jump starter for cars as well as a powerful power bank Reverse polarity, short circuit and
www.lidl.co.uk
I've had the cheaper ones before and got burned . . . . even the smaller NoCo packs. (GB40 / Soukai etc etc)And GB70 currently £135.99 at Amazon. Not quite as good as the £113 as above but still seems quite a good deal.
@Dellmassive or anyone else with experience of the NOCO - how do you think the LIDL £44.99 job would compare?
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank -
Ultimate Speed Portable Jump Starter with Power Bank - 2-in-1: jump starter for cars as well as a powerful power bank Reverse polarity, short circuit and
i would bother getting anything less than the GB70 for T6.
they may work an a small petrol engine car, but not a cold 2.0l diesel with a flat battery.
infact i got it on film . . . . . . . .
watch the GB40 fail miserably . . . . . i was surprised myself that it didnt start this 1.7L Derv.....
video here >>> New video by ESD Lee
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watch the GB40 fail miserably . . . . . i was surprised myself that it didnt start this 1.7L Derv.....
video here >>> New video by ESD Lee
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My mate Matt has a Lidl one and he's started his T5 with it several times.
As always with these things, the 12 Ah claim in the Lidl ad is deceiving - thats at the cell level (3.3v), the sum of the capacities of all the internal cells (four), which does not give the overall pack capacity. These have 4 LiFePo4 cells in series so you can sum the total energy (watt hours) but not capacity (amp hours) - at 12v it will be at most a quarter of their claim, maybe half at USB level. This is typical of 'power bank' advertising. The Lidl wont have a boost facility, just 4 cells in series that connect across your starter battery, so the trick is to leave it connected for 15 minutes before starting.
I'm baffled by the energy decal on Lee's Noco 150 - 22500 joules is a piffling amount, equivalent to half an amp hour at 12v. Noco claim that the internal battery is 24wh, which is four times the 22500 joule claim but still only 2Ah at 12v. These devices take advantage of the incredibly low ESR of lithium cells allowing huge currents despite the low storage capacity. They obviously work very well and can be a lifesaver, its just annoying that the advertising claims dont make any sense at all
Edit: after a bit of digging apparently their claim is 22500 "joules per three seconds" which is a completely made-up unit of power transfer!
I notice the newer ones are missing the 22500 sticker...
As always with these things, the 12 Ah claim in the Lidl ad is deceiving - thats at the cell level (3.3v), the sum of the capacities of all the internal cells (four), which does not give the overall pack capacity. These have 4 LiFePo4 cells in series so you can sum the total energy (watt hours) but not capacity (amp hours) - at 12v it will be at most a quarter of their claim, maybe half at USB level. This is typical of 'power bank' advertising. The Lidl wont have a boost facility, just 4 cells in series that connect across your starter battery, so the trick is to leave it connected for 15 minutes before starting.
I'm baffled by the energy decal on Lee's Noco 150 - 22500 joules is a piffling amount, equivalent to half an amp hour at 12v. Noco claim that the internal battery is 24wh, which is four times the 22500 joule claim but still only 2Ah at 12v. These devices take advantage of the incredibly low ESR of lithium cells allowing huge currents despite the low storage capacity. They obviously work very well and can be a lifesaver, its just annoying that the advertising claims dont make any sense at all
Edit: after a bit of digging apparently their claim is 22500 "joules per three seconds" which is a completely made-up unit of power transfer!
I notice the newer ones are missing the 22500 sticker...
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I've still got the Lithium cell from the GB150 that i killed in the tent last summer.My mate Matt has a Lidl one and he's started his T5 with it several times. The trick is to leave it connected for 15 minutes before starting.
As always with these things, the 12 Ah claim in the Lidl ad is deceiving - thats at the cell level (3.3v), the sum of the capacities of all the internal cells (four), which does not give the overall pack capacity. These have 4 cells in series so you can sum the total energy (watt hours) but not capacity (amp hours) - at 12v it will be at most a quarter of their claim, maybe half at USB level. This is typical of 'power bank' advertising. The Lidl wont have a boost facility, just 4 cells in series that connect across your starter battery.
I'm baffled by the energy decal on Lee's Noco 150 - 22500 joules is a piffling amount, equivalent to half an amp hour at 12v. Noco claim that the internal battery is 24wh, which is four times the 22500 joule claim but still only 2Ah at 12v. These devices take advantage of the incredibly low ESR of lithium cells allowing huge currents despite the low storage capacity. They obviously work very well and can be a lifesaver, its just annoying that the advertising claims dont make any sense at all
it seems unbranded . . . but either 3 or 6 pouch cells . . .
i keep it im my "explosion containment pie dish" . . . .
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it looks like this . . .
as you say not mega amount of Ah capacity, but what it has got it can dump very quickly...
The problem with the GB40 was that it just discharged its capacity into the cars already flat battery . . . . leaving both batterys to low to start the car.
I would have been better off disconnecting the battery from the car and using the jump pack on the battery cables only . . . . . . but that's a scenario beyond most standard users of these jump packs.
The GB70 + GB150 i found had enough capacity to dump into the donor car/van, but still have enough left for a jump start.
Leaving them connected to flat battery seems to just run them flat very quickly into the donor flat battery.
I've found the best method is to connect and jump start immediately, then remove as quick as possible. - then recharge to full asap.
Thanks @Dellmassive and @Phil_G.
I love the fact you have a whole family of the NOCO's Dellmassive
I've put my business case to my boss and she has said I'm allowed to buy the NOCO! Ordered it now
I love the fact you have a whole family of the NOCO's Dellmassive
I've put my business case to my boss and she has said I'm allowed to buy the NOCO! Ordered it now
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