MFSW - Golf GTd MkVII + DSG Paddles -- How I Done It --

[Dellmassive]

So its started - the parts are in.

keep an eye on this thread for the fitting & Video.



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EDIT:

this is the connector layout . . . .



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[Dellmassive]

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Edit:

1.9 Multifunction steering wheel control unit -J453-
1.9.1 Fitting location:
in steering wheel
A - Multifunction steering wheel control unit -J453-
A1 - 5-pin connector -T5u- , black



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Cruise control system switch (J453), Multifunction buttons on left in
steering wheel, Brake light switch, Coil connector, Clutch
position sender, connects to the (J623 Engine/motor control unit, in E-box in engine compartment) Engine/motor control unit, Mechatronic unitfor dual clutch gearbox via the ClockSpring - F350 Coil connector, in steering wheel.

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Multifunction buttons on left in steering wheel (E440) , Coil
connector (F350), Alarm horn, Driver door control unit, Front
passenger door control unit, conect to the Onboard supply control unit (J519)



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Multifunction buttons on left in steering wheel, Multifunction
buttons on right in steering wheel, Coil connector, Airbag
control unit, Multifunction steering wheel control unit,
Onboard supply control unit
E440 Multifunction buttons on left in steering wheel
E441 Multifunction buttons on right in steering wheel
F350 Coil connector, in steering wheel
J234 Airbag control unit
J453 Multifunction steering wheel control unit
J519 Onboard supply control unit
N95 Driver side airbag igniter
T5u 5-pin connector, black
T12ae 12-pin connector, yellow
T41 41-pin connector, grey
T50 50-pin connector, yellow
T73b 73-pin connector, white
B528 Connection 1 (LIN bus) in main wiring harness
B549 Connection 2 (LIN bus) in main wiring harness


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E441 RHS Multifunction buttons on right in steering wheel connects to > E440 Multifunction buttons on left in steering wheel (via ribbon cable)

E440 LHS buttons are on J453 Multifunction steering wheel control unit.
J453 connects (via LIN bus T5u/3 0.35mm purple/white)via the F350 slip ring to the BCM (J519)
J453 connects (T5u/5 0.35mm grey) via the F350 slip ring to the (J623) Engine control unit
12v power (T5u/2 0.35mm white) via > SC32 Fuse 32 on fuse holder C to (F350 to J453)
0v ground (T5u/1 0.35mm Brown)(Earth connection, in airbag wiring harness )via > F350 > Earth point, onboard supply control unit
Horn plate feed to J453 (T5u/1 0.35mm blue/white)
Horn plate ground (T5u/1 0.35mm Brown)(Earth connection, in airbag wiring harness )


so there should be 6x wires at the yellow connector, 2x for Airbag and 4x for power and data)

no illumination feed from what i can see, so the switch modules must get the illumination PVM via the LIN Bus.

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airbag N95
2cores - black/green via F350 slipring to J234 Airbag control unit

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So the CC buttons effectivly talk to the ECU

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the RHS buttons talk to the BCM via LIN bus for the MFD, phone, radio buttons.


these are readout from INSTRUMENTS.



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and CC buttons here >



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LIN Bus Explained - A Simple Intro

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More info over here > Dellmassive`s -- "how I Done It" -- Thread

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[elliot330]

where's the rest

and by the way, thanks for posting these how to's

 

[richi]

Very nice,looking forward to seeing the video although it will probably cost me money

 

[kiter]

look forward to more info, defo something I want to do

 

[Skyliner33]

Gutted, thats the steering wheel I want but I have the wrong button payout

Looking forward to another excellent and informative thread though.

 

[Dellmassive]

ill be doing this soon, MFSW is still boxed ready for this project.

as for the buttons . . . . . . this one has a "mode button" LHS

but i think my stock MFSW has a cancel button, i think the rest are the same. . . . . . . i suppose we will find out if it works as-is or if we need to do a button swap.

I've done this swap before on a T5.1 with paddles. - that mod needed an extra LIN bus core wired back to the BCM, but that was due to moving from a stork to MFSW CC.

 

[Ads_Essex]

That looks wheely nice..
































Ok, I’ll get my coat.

 

[Insert Coin]

as for the buttons . . . . . . this one has a "mode button" LHS

but i think my stock MFSW has a cancel button, i think the rest are the same. . . . . . . i suppose we will find out if it works as-is or if we need to do a button swap.

The cancel/mode buttons need coding, I've seen another post from someone on here somewhere. But you can just swap the buttons instead I believe.

I've got one going on this week, the guy will fit and code where needed.

 

[Skyliner33]

My van has the cruise on the stalk, not the wheel so I think that stops me from using a wheel with this button layout.

I've not managed to find one that looks like (silver, circular airbag and flappy paddle) this with the same buttons as mine.

 

[Insert Coin]

Ok, so I have the same wheel now as @Dellmassive, replacing my standard Highline wheel.

I know it's been covered before on other threads, but the GTi wheel won't just bolt onto a Highline and work out of the box, it will need coding.

We tried this today and no dice, also the Highline buttons won't swap with the GTi buttons, they are different.

 

[Dellmassive]

What buttons did work and what ones didn't?

 

[Insert Coin]

None of them I don't think, I was hoping just the cancel/mode button, but neither did the volume or preset buttons either.

 

[Dellmassive]

The buttons plugged into the module (one on each side) on my old T5.1 Mfsw.

I wonder if it's a module issue....

I'll have to VCDS my current MFSW and see what modules I have...

This what I have now...

 

[kiter]

This is all I have been able to find and doesn't say what they do to make it all work, I really like this wheel but at £510 plus vat its just too much plus got the cost of getting there and back which for me would be another 250 at least.

MK7 Golf Flat Bottom Multi function Steering Wheel for VW T6

 

[Mixsy]

If your not bothered for the gti badge, but still a sporty wheel, I managed to find these on eBay. The way I did it was to buy the wheel, then swap the buttons off of your own wheel onto the new wheel then put it back on.


I got the wheel off eBay
Tuning Flattened VW Golf 7 Alcantara Steering Wheel Multifunction Blue Ring | eBay

 

[kiter]

If your not bothered for the gti badge, but still a sporty wheel, I managed to find these on eBay. The way I did it was to buy the wheel, then swap the buttons off of your own wheel onto the new wheel then put it back on.

View attachment 39589
I got the wheel off eBay
Tuning Flattened VW Golf 7 Alcantara Steering Wheel Multifunction Blue Ring | eBay

Liking that...… wonder if you can get a version with the paddles as well.

 

[Dellmassive]

I've started adding edits to above post,

showing modules, buttons and schematics (for the stock OEM MFSW).

the CC butons talk to the Engine ECU and the other talk to the BCM via clockspring and LIN bus.

 

[Skyliner33]

I know the GTi steering wheel wont fit my van as my van has buttons that look like this:



So, if I bought a wheel like this:



Would I be able to swap the black plastic inc buttons and airbag over and it would work, assuming it has the DSG buttons on the back of the wheel these will work? (With coding or without)

 

[Insert Coin]

I think it would work if you swap the buttons over, looks like you would need to swap over the entire button assembly, the airbag is the same so that's easy enough.

Flappy paddles work straight out of the box, no need for coding which is a surprising bonus.

You should be able to remove the whole assembly like in the picture and put it onto the new wheel, but nothing is ever certain on a VW, god knows why they use so many different sized parts for the same thing.