Disabling the Stop Start with VCDS

[z1ts]

I know they make life easy but I hate them as it is really easy to damage the main conductor.

OK - interesting, haven't had that happen (as yet!)

 

[Phil_G]

The problem is they can cut some of the strands of multistrand wire, so theres no visible damage and the connection tests ok,
but on the reduced number of strands the connection isnt capable of carrying its full current capacity.
The stop/start switch is just signal levels though, its not switching any 'power' as such

Cheers
Phil

 

[RayC]

did anyone work out the coding yet, it must be possible to see the before and after coding change and then copy with VCDS??

 

[Pauly]

It’s not coding, I have scanned mine before and after disabling stop start (using VCP) and there was no change to any coding or adaptions
The only noticeable change on the VCDS scan was one of the readiness bits in module 01 (engine) had flipped
Original scan = 0 0 0 0 0
New scan = 0 0 0 0 1

 

[RayC]

It’s not coding, I have scanned mine before and after disabling stop start (using VCP) and there was no change to any coding or adaptions
The only noticeable change on the VCDS scan was one of the readiness bits in module 01 (engine) had flipped
Original scan = 0 0 0 0 0
New scan = 0 0 0 0 1

that's a bummer then, I have a VAG CAN that turns off ESP in Golf 5 in a similar way, the software is terrible though!

 

[Lar79]

Hi all i went into
61 battery reg
Adaption 13
Changed to 002066
Using vag-com/vcds

Works fine in my 2018 t6 Australian version,
Still has start stop indicator with line through on instruments
but i can live with that.

 

[z1ts]

That's an interesting one @Lar79 - does that just put the voltage a bit higher or what?

 

[Lar79]

Temperature range i belive been using like it for 4mt now all seems fine.

 

[z1ts]

OK - that's cool.

 

[Lar79]

If you closely watch VCP video thats how they do it, thats how i found it out.

 

[Robert]

Well done!

 

[ei-aprilia]

Hi all i went into
61 battery reg
Adaption 13
Changed to 002066
Using vag-com/vcds

Works fine in my 2018 t6 Australian version,
Still has start stop indicator with line through on instruments
but i can live with that.

Fantastic stuff cheers

 

[Stevefrs]

Will dig the vcds out and try it!

 

[oldiebut goodie]

I await any more info you have Tony, thanks. Also if you find a way of stopping the re-gen charging. I don't like hearing the AC fan speed going up every time you lift off the accelerator and back down when you press the accelerator again. The voltage goes from 12v to 15v.

However I was so fed up with it I fitted a nice little memory device bought on eBay for £28.99. See item 322352078637 by seller idegencris.
You connect it to the back of the switch. It is only three wires and he even confirmed the method for removal of the switch and the wiring. Which ever position you decide to leave it in, it will remember that for the next start so you can have it as normal stop/starting or if you turn it off it will do that 4 seconds after the next time you turn the ignition on.
The radio trim needs to be removed in order to push stop/start switch out. The switch comes out easily but the radio trim was tight but I can advise where the catches/lugs are so you know where to pull it. I then pulled to harness out through the opening left at the side of the radio to work on it. I backed the three wires out of the plug as that way I could finish it off with heat shrink and then push the pins back in. I do tried to add a picture of it and the picture the seller gave me explaining the switch removal. He also told me the wires are connected as such (I did confirm and luckily they are all on one side of the connector).

(Module -- Car)
BLUE -- Brown/Black (signal)
RED -- Black (acc/ignition)
BROWN -- Brown (Gnd)

The finish off this little device is absolutely brilliant.

Many thanks for posting - I have had the module since ordering the van - this is the first thing that I have done to it. A bit daunting taking a brand spanking new van apart!

 

[Grim Reaper]

I found this blog entry here Audi Start / Stop Memory Function - Advanced In-Car Technologies that gives details on how to do it on an audi, can anyone say if it is transferrable to VW?

 

[Loz]

That method doesn’t work on the T6, I did it successfully on my Touareg.
But, We can already do it on our vans, did you read the topic?
Override Start Stop System

 

[Grim Reaper]

I see the workaround via the voltage setting but the audi one was more direct and could be set to 3 different options.

 

[Loz]

I see the workaround via the voltage setting but the audi one was more direct and could be set to 3 different options.

Yes, but it doesn’t work. This does Override Start Stop System

 

[Robert]

I found this blog entry here Audi Start / Stop Memory Function - Advanced In-Car Technologies that gives details on how to do it on an audi, can anyone say if it is transferrable to VW?

I have done this successfully on Audi A4 & A5. Basicly all you need to do is, go to central electronics, perform security access with 20113 and then in adaptation add 32 to existing value at channel 34.

Works like a charm, SS switch memorises it's last state. Very handy and very practical.

 

[Dellmassive]

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