Cambelt + Water Pump Replacement - Official guidance

[Ayjay]

I let them give mine a wash for the first couple of services but at the third oneI I was hanging around for the 'while you wait' and saw the bloke on wash duty drop his sponge onto the yard floor, pick it up, give it a quick dip in the bucket and start washing again. After that, I went inside and told them that I needed to get going so would do without a wash. To be fair though, I never had any problems with the washing on the couple of occasions that they did do it.

 

[Ayjay]

The same is true of many independents.

That's why I especially said a 'good' one!

 

[fax001]

Our 2016 T6 has developed a water leak.
My local garage has diagnosed that it requires a new can belt, but cannot source the requisite parts ! No stock at their supplier apparently.
Can anyone recommend someone in the Bath area who might be able to undertake the work?
Thank you

 

[DaveD]

Our 2016 T6 has developed a water leak.
My local garage has diagnosed that it requires a new can belt, but cannot source the requisite parts ! No stock at their supplier apparently.
Can anyone recommend someone in the Bath area who might be able to undertake the work?
Thank you

I just looked on Euro Car Parts website and they've got a selection of cam belts and associated parts, water pumps, etc all available for my 2016 T6.
Maybe yours is a different engine variant and there isn't such a selection available but you might wish to check.

 

[fax001]

I just looked on Euro Car Parts website and they've got a selection of cam belts and associated parts, water pumps, etc all available for my 2016 T6.
Maybe yours is a different engine variant and there isn't such a selection available but you might wish to check.

Thank you.

 

[Chippie1]

Our 2016 T6 has developed a water leak.
My local garage has diagnosed that it requires a new can belt, but cannot source the requisite parts ! No stock at their supplier apparently.
Can anyone recommend someone in the Bath area who might be able to undertake the work?
Thank you

Can you get the van to Bristol?

 

[fax001]

Can you get the van to Bristol?

I could, but following a search on the forum I have found VASS in Bath, who have quoted what appears to be a pretty fair price for a cam belt and water pump.

 

[Chippie1]

I use Streetwise in Bristol ex main man at vw heritage started up on his own. I’ve used him for 10 plus years now very knowledgeable and never let me down.
Hope all goes well and you get it sorted

 

[fax001]

I use Streetwise in Bristol ex main man at vw heritage started up on his own. I’ve used him for 10 plus years now very knowledgeable and never let me down.
Hope all goes well and you get it sorted

Thank you for the recommendation. Much appreciated. Will make a note in case I need them in the future.

 

[catfood12]

I've had a squeaky squeal noise from the front of the engine for the past couple of weeks. Defo a dry ball race type of squeak. It has to be the aux belt or cambelt. I did suspect the latter as aux tensioner was done under recall a few years ago.

The forecast rain never appeared today so it took about 45 mins to get to here. Undertray off, air filter and housing out of the way. Aux belt off;





Squeak still there. The cambelt is coming out. New aux belt too I think. Neither of the belts looks too bad. A fair amount of rubber dust inside the cover though and the cords are visible on the cambelt teeth. Not a bad thing in itself, just shows it's a bit worn. This shot shows it's stretched a bit too, if the tensioner was set correctly when it was installed.




Another 45 mins or so to get it timed up, marked up and the cambelt off and idlers out. I always mark cambelts and pulleys. Can 't possibly get it wrong then on a reinstall;




I've finally put some blue paper cloth in the inlet in case I drop anything...

All out.




The larger idler pully has quite a bit of play in it, as does the tensioner. No play in the water pump and no leaks.

Off to TPS in the morning for bits. Not inclined to change the water pump at the moment. I may regret that in 24 hours....

The locking pins were stiff to get in and needed jiggling to fit, so I suspect the belt has stretched a bit in 5+ years and 40K or so miles.

 

[catfood12]

Collected a 04L 198 119K kit from TPS this morning. Didn't take up the water pump option. The kit comes with belt, tensioner, two idlers and new nuts/bolts. Also picked up a new aux belt;



Old and new bits for comparison. Play in bearing of larger idler & tensioner, and they spun very loose/freely. Smaller idler seemed tighter. Odd as that would spin faster, but I wonder if there's less load on it. No play in water pump pulley, no evidence of leaks. Timing pin kit was a cheapy Chinese one from Ali Express I bough a couple of years ago. All fitted very snugly though. Quality was good.




Transposed my white marks onto the new belt.



It went back together very quickly. All timed up and tensioned. Didn't need to move the HPFP or cam pulleys, they were spot on. I guess all genuine bits, you'd expect them to be exactly the same size as the old ones. Would have been a different matter if I'd had the head off or perhaps even changed the water pump.

Most fiddly bit was getting the new aux belt back on.



The squeak is gone. That's the main thing. I can relax again now. I was thinking I'm on borrowed time. If the noisy bearing started to break up or seize it would have doubtless been a lot more serious.

 

[LanHulk]

Guys how much is a cambelt on a t6? I’ve had a quote to fix an oil leak above the cambelt, and change the cambelt and water pump at £950

 

[eugene]

Guys how much is a cambelt on a t6? I’ve had a quote to fix an oil leak above the cambelt, and change the cambelt and water pump at £950

Please PM me your chassis numer - I will give an extended answer on parts etc. There are some smart ways how to save.

 

[Linoleum Bonypart]

Please PM me your chassis numer - I will give an extended answer on parts etc. There are some smart ways how to save.

Why don’t you put it here so the knowledge base grows rather than keeping it secret ..??

 

[eugene]

Why don’t you put it here so the knowledge base grows rather than keeping it secret ..??

I think I didn't make myself clear. I need a chassis number which is personal data, so PM. I will then post recommendations here in this thread.

 

[Linoleum Bonypart]

I think I didn't make myself clear. I need a chassis number which is personal data, so PM. I will then post recommendations here in this thread.

Ah sorry yes just reread it

 

[eugene]

Guys how much is a cambelt on a t6? I’ve had a quote to fix an oil leak above the cambelt, and change the cambelt and water pump at £950

The front sealing flange for the crankshaft on CX** engines is a common problem - oil leak starts around 100-120k km. When changing cambelt kit - ask to get the sealing flange changed as well. It won't add much labor as most of the necessary parts will be removed anyway.

CXGB is your engine code Lanhulk.

Sealing flange 04L103151A. Smart owners buy an aftermarket part from Corteco 20037032B because it is the producer of the VW original part (see proof in photos attached).

Timing kit:
04L198119D. Equivalent aftermarket quality at a fraction of the cost: INA 530 0699 10 (without pump) or INA 530 0699 31 (with pump).

If you are buying just the cambelt, go for Contitech - they produce the best belts. Superior to VW original (VW uses this brand frequently for original belts).
04L109119D or CONTITECH CT1168 which will be the same belt but 3 times cheaper.

Where I live, the full timing belt kit with pump and a flange cost together 129 pounds including delivery or 149 euros.

Good luck

 

[Stefan]

The front sealing flange for the crankshaft on CX** engines is a common problem - oil leak starts around 100-120k km. When changing cambelt kit - ask to get the sealing flange changed as well. It won't add much labor as most of the necessary parts will be removed anyway.

CXGB is your engine code Lanhulk.

Sealing flange 04L103151A. Smart owners buy an aftermarket part from Corteco 20037032B because it is the producer of the VW original part (see proof in photos attached).

Timing kit:
04L198119D. Equivalent aftermarket quality at a fraction of the cost: INA 530 0699 10 (without pump) or INA 530 0699 31 (with pump).

If you are buying just the cambelt, go for Contitech - they produce the best belts. Superior to VW original (VW uses this brand frequently for original belts).
04L109119D or CONTITECH CT1168 which will be the same belt but 3 times cheaper.

Where I live, the full timing belt kit with pump and a flange cost together 129 pounds including delivery or 149 euros.

Good luck

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Whats your experience with CAAC engines? Eu5 early t6’s. I’ve had similar quotes, from 550 to 950.

 

[eugene]

Whats your experience with CAAC engines? Eu5 early t6’s. I’ve had similar quotes, from 550 to 950.

CAAx and CFCA engines don't have a flange. Probably a good idea to replace the seal on the crankshaft although I didn't hear specific complaints.

Timing kit for CAAx and CFCA - 03L198119D, INA kit without pump - INA 530 0550 10, with pump: 530055032.
BEWARE: INA belts with "Made in PL" label are shit. If you get one like this, just buy a Conti belt separately (CONTITECH CT1139).
Contitech full timing kits imho are not optimal even though they cost more than INA - the bearings and pump are likely from their chinese factories (INA is slovakia).

INA full timing kit with pump is around 128 eur.

 

[Tic tac]

Guys how much is a cambelt on a t6? I’ve had a quote to fix an oil leak above the cambelt, and change the cambelt and water pump at £950

I've just paid £1280 for cambelt kit, oil pump belt,front crank seal and haldex service.
6 year old t6 with 30k