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[Adi-66]

Hi,

So my trusty T6 T32 DSG has just decided to start to make a horendus knocking sound “just off centre” steering at any speed …. It’s like a clunk that you can hear and feel literally just off centre.

I drive the van regularly and it wasn’t doing it when I last parked it up 2 days ago!

Only thing that I’ve done to the van recently apart from clean and polish it was to have it stage 1 mapped by racing line.

Problem is we’re heading off from the midlands to drive the wild Atlantic way tomorrow evening at 5pm!

I’ve had the wheel off on the RHS to have a look / pull / wobble of things and it looks like the drive shaft inner gaiter has a small split in it and has flung a bit of grease out (the shaft has some play “in out” in the tulip / plunge joint, normal?).
Could the extra torque of the map done anything to the drive line?

What would you do? Can’t cancel the ferry or we’ll loose our £750!

If it’s just a dry drive shaft CV itll be noisy but should last a 1000miles?

Thoughts for a wash driveway / fix check for any issue that I can do tomorrow??

 

[B.different]

As a bandaid for the boot, buy a cheap cv boot, grease and cable ties. Pack the existing boot full of grease, cut the new boot and sleeve it over
making sure the cut is on the opposite side then cable tie it. Should see you though your trip till you can do it properly

 

[DXX]

Damaged CV joints can be dangerous to drive with, odd that’s so bad after just 2 days use?
I would seriously consider alternative transport, if not;
Try and get a good mechanics opinion, 10 minutes inspection / drive should be better than just hoping for the best.
Buy a driveshaft and ship it to a location that you’ll be passing through, do a bit of research on garages / workshops en route.
Get some more grease into the boot.
If the split is very small thoroughly clean and superglue a rubber patch over the split.
Or; a roll of 50mm wide Denso tape might keep the dirt out and some grease in, when securing it split the end of the tape lengthways enough to tie a double overhand knot around the boot.
I’ve used this method underwater but never on a spinning shaft.
Obviously if you patch up the boot and then have an incident it will be apparent to anybody investigating it that you were aware of the defect.

 

[Dellmassive]

You don't say the spec, year, milage of the van.?

Assuming it's CV joint..... If it pops you will most likely lose all drive... And will need to be recovered to a garage.

Stripped drive shaft splines?

You say a clonk, it's it one side of steering, both,?

You could take it too your local MOT garage and ask them too do a dummy MOT test. (,IE not log in on the visa/DVLA,), but have it on the ramp and check all steering and suspension for play,?

Possible engines mounts?

Have you got full break down cover?

Can you get a video clip on it and post a link to that here?

 

[Adi-66]

As a bandaid for the boot, buy a cheap cv boot, grease and cable ties. Pack the existing boot full of grease, cut the new boot and sleeve it over
making sure the cut is on the opposite side then cable tie it. Should see you though your trip till you can do it properly

Good plan - I’m just not convinced it’s could be that that’s making the noise? Would a “dry” inner CV joint make a knocking noise when turning - just off centre?

You don't say the spec, year, milage of the van.?

Assuming it's CV joint..... If it pops you will most likely lose all drive... And will need to be recovered to a garage.

Stripped drive shaft splines?

You say a clonk, it's it one side of steering, both,?

You could take it too your local MOT garage and ask them too do a dummy MOT test. (,IE not log in on the visa/DVLA,), but have it on the ramp and check all steering and suspension for play,?

Possible engines mounts?

Have you got full break down cover?

Can you get a video clip on it and post a link to that here?

2017 LWB shuttle

just hit 200k miles (it’s on 200236now


2 ltr diesel / 2wd / t32 shuttle (still a shuttle not a camper conversion etc)

 

[Dellmassive]

Awesome 200k plus,... So it's going to be well worn in.

It could be anything on the power train or steering and suspension with those miles.

Any idea what's been changed and when service wise?

Steering rack?
Engine mounts?
ARB mounts?
Tie rod ends?

You don't mention what engine you have (they all 2.0l)

102,150,180,199,204ps

Your brave man getting a 200k mile engine mapped at those miles.... I think I'd be looking to take it easy lol - any particular reason why you got it mapped ant this point?

 

[ei-aprilia]

In my experience worn inner CV joints cause quite a wobble and vibration under acceleration, no noise though and I've had one inner joint quite literally fall apart. Worn outer CV joints clunk like hell. I've replaced both inner and outer front CV joints on my van now , they all went bad over around 20,000 miles. OEM joints ain't cheap either.
I temporarily repaired a split boot with self amalgamating rubber tape , it did a brilliant job and was available in Screwfix at the time , not sure if they still sell it.
I'd be wary of driving anywhere far until you have confirmed what the problem actually is.

 

[Dellmassive]

In my experience worn inner CV joints cause quite a wobble and vibration under acceleration, no noise though and I've had one inner joint quite literally fall apart. Worn outer CV joints clunk like hell. I've replaced both inner and outer front CV joints on my van now , they all went bad over around 20,000 miles. OEM joints ain't cheap either.
I temporarily repaired a split boot with self amalgamating rubber tape , it did a brilliant job and was available in Screwfix at the time , not sure if they still sell it.
I'd be wary of driving anywhere far until you have confirmed what the problem actually is.

20 or 200k ?

 

[darkman884]

Yes , the inner tripod joints in/out movement is quite normal.
They have probably an inch and half in/out movement.
This is to accommodate the suspensions up/down travel and steering left/right direction, which lenghtens the drive shafts perspective, hence the need for the tripod joint to have in/out travel.

 

[dubber36]

What would you do? Can’t cancel the ferry or we’ll loose our £750!

That money has already gone whether you go or not. If you don't go, the money you are intending to spend on diesel will probably pay to repair the van ready for the next trip.

 

[ei-aprilia]

20 or 200k ?

First outer went at about 90,000 miles then the rest followed , just done the last of the 4 on the front at 110,000 miles

 

[doncarlyon]

Did you get sorted?

 

[Adi-66]

Hey Evertone thanks for all the suggestions and all of the other people on all the other knock, clunks and bangs threads on here.

Managed to resolve the issue really easily today - the drive shaft boot was ok, the oil on it was just old overfill / oil top up drips that has found its way down to the back of the engine and migrated into the boot and clumped up with dirt.
Gave it all a good clean and inspection and it’s ok.

The knocking was from the 8week old GSF drop links (only ones available at the time I did them) …. They’d worked loose (came supplied with shitty nylocs), so in the BIN they went and some Lemforder ones went on with the decent clinch / oval nuts holding tight!

The GSF links have ever so slightly enlarged the whole in the damper (damper LH >RH swap when I get back)

Thanks everyone you all listened and gave me somewhere to speak about my issue and read other advice and experiences, that allowed me to think through my own issue and fix it super quick.

Peace & Love - happy dubbing!

 

[DXX]

Good it’s sorted, enjoy your trip.
I reckon the shocks will be fine, no need to reverse position, just torque up