Education on haldex required please!

[Limalex]

Hello Gents,

I am preparing for a project and at the moment wether buying an all wheel drive T5 or try fitting the whole all wheel system from the donor car is the question.

What are the capabilities of the older I guess it is the first generation Haldex system fitted on the early t5's?
What horse power it could handle?
What models sharing the same Haldex?

If I understand correctly the newer Haldex has multiple different setup. One for high powered sport cars, one basic and one with a switchable diff loc for heavy SUVs

Which one does the T6 or the T5.1 has? I guessing Transporters getting the stronger DQ500 box they might sharing stronger Haldex without the diff switch.

Are some of the the Haldexes interchangeable?
Are there some official documents about the Haldex system from VW I should research?

 

[Loz]

For starters..

 

[Limalex]

For starters..

Thank you Loz very helpful.

 

[Limalex]

Ok ,so it seems Haldexes are not interchangeable the parts can fit, but get it to work requires changing the ECU, ABS pump and all control modules.

The T5 from 2010 til 2015 has the gen. VI Haldex and the T6 from 2016 has the gen V

If anybody could upload a VCDS scan from a 4 MOTION DSG T5 and from a 4MOTION DSG T6 It would be super helpful.

 

[Limalex]

I found a t5 4 motion DSG scan in this thread. Thanks to @WiIIWiIIWiII

Friday,05,August,2022,10:10:37:39550
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)  HEX-NET2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH014338   License Plate:
Mileage: 132080km-82070mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 22 25 56 69 0B

VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH014338   Mileage: 132080km-82070miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFCA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GM    HW: 03L 907 309 L
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   X37 6332 
   Revision: 22X37---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: ED4910E3
   Coding: 01254012233600080000
   Shop #: WSC 92521 052 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GM 003006
   ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GL_003.rod
   VCID: 7CAA9DF2B662C00B937-8028
   VINID: 9E606AAAA1D8A946000440C320C92A6938

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 X

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0BT 300 011 P    HW: 0BH 927 711 C
   Component: DSG DQ500-7A  H07 1814 
   Revision: 00H07V01    CVN: E6455EDB
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_001_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3B285EEEF3EC0733DAD-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 J    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0109 
   Revision: 00H43001   
   Coding: 708764AD99A50E9926A59974A96610
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
   VCID: 392444E6F9503523C81-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BN    HW: 7E5 907 047 BN
   Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505 
   Revision: 00001010   
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 7CAA9DF2B662C00B937-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 H    HW: 7H0 937 087
   Component: BCM T5GP H+4  H47 0254 
   Revision: BO047001    Serial number: 0429 299120116
   Coding: A0A0303A0E612431812848106C2B8E540080430F60844000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01211 210 01254
   VCID: 392444E6F9503523C81-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 251012 05  54  0403
   Coding: 0330AD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C    HW: 7E0 959 801 C  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 3313
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C    HW: 7E0 959 802 C  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 3313
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 040000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H07 0022
   Serial number: 70000000000000532074
   Coding: E30000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 S    HW: 7N0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0210 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231329802005
   Coding: 318103
   Shop #: WSC 07856 000 33730
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001011
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
   VCID: 42D6230A940676FB99B-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00CCRZ+
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
   Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 353C48D6D5C8D1432C9-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 J    HW: 7E0 920 970 J
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0710 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 160B01
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 31347CC621A0FD63701-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 087
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H47 0254 
   Revision: BO047001   
   Coding: 047300
   Shop #: WSC 01211 210 01254
   VCID: 70B2B9C2EAAAB46B3FF-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09N 907 554 B    HW: 09N 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      6008 
   Coding: 0000015
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
   VCID: 372042DEC34423533E5-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0710 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A86ABAACCF64EBB71B-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: ConWys Trailer H07 0100 
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000132425721
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 303279C22A2AF46B7FF-8064

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:01, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.8V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
Friday,05,August,2022,10:11:28:39550
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)  HEX-NET2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH014338   License Plate:
Mileage: 132080km-82070mi   Repair Order:


                Address 03: ABS Brakes
Control Module Part Number: 7E0 907 379 J
  Component and/or Version: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0109
           Software Coding: 708764AD99A50E9926A59974A96610
            Work Shop Code: WSC 02736
                      VCID: 392444E6F9503523C81-806C

Advanced Identification
     Identification: TF7-02W
     Revision: 00H43001
     Date: 04.06.12
     Manufacturer number: 0104
     Test stand number: 04E6
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 2000.14.00
     Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
Misc.
     Hardware number: 7E0 907 379 E
     Workshop System Name: -----
     Dataset Number:           
     Dataset Version:     
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 392444E6F9503523C81-806C
       Labels: 7E0-907-37X-MK25AXT.CLB