Disposable Gas cartridges

[Green Giant]

Evening
Would it be a bad.. idea to use these disposable gas cartridges instead of the normal camping gaz 907 etc?
We will be having a Smev double ring hob&sink fitted, just wondering if these canisterswould be more convenient, to store, to use outside on a small portable hob, and most places seem to sell them, or buy them in bulk.
Would ther be enough pressure, if both rings were in use at same time? Is this even possible to connect to these hobs , are there adaptors.
We are going for a U shape layout and only having one kitchen unit, and half of this will be the fridge.so will also be having two water containers in there, if we have a 907 I think we need a gas locker too.

Cheers

 

[cgtmiles]

They get cold when the gas flow is high which can cause them to block. We used these for our cadac using the triple bottle accessory:
Cadac Trio Power Pak (BayonetCcartridge) and Hose (1m) https://amzn.eu/d/2nL4NzJ
But still had problems with the flow so switched to a normal bottle.
Having said that we had one of the stoves that use a single bottle of these for years and didn’t bother taking anything else in the end (pre campervan)

 

[Paynewright]

Have you found these…..https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/16119880/cadac-trio-power-pak-16119880

 

[Paynewright]

We’ve also used a Halfords single burner hob that uses these canisters, for years. We’ve never had any issues preventing meal / drink preparation, however, if its cold and the canister is only 1/4 full it seems to struggle. Usually first brew / brekky fry up! We just stick a full can in and use the nearly empty one when the ambient temps warmed up a bit!

 

[Green Giant]

They get cold when the gas flow is high which can cause them to block. We used these for our cadac using the triple bottle accessory:
Cadac Trio Power Pak (BayonetCcartridge) and Hose (1m) https://amzn.eu/d/2nL4NzJ
But still had problems with the flow so switched to a normal bottle.
Having said that we had one of the stoves that use a single bottle of these for years and didn’t bother taking anything else in the end (pre campervan)

Good call on them getting cold in heavy use, we like getting away in winter so could potentially be an issue, hopefully inside the van it could potentially work, I see that tri pressure is 28bar, so would need to check the hob specs.
As we are going for a slightly different camper layout from the norm, just exploring all options, and we like cooking outside in suitable weather

 

[Green Giant]

Have you found these…..https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/16119880/cadac-trio-power-pak-16119880

Just looking at this now

 

[Paynewright]

Last year we got a Cadac pro cook 2 with quick release hose and single Coleman canister (double & triple arrays available)

This would give you inside / outside options and includes a griddle / hotplate to cook on.

We’re pleased with ours!

 

[Green Giant]

Last year we got a Cadac pro cook 2 with quick release hose and single Coleman canister (double & triple arrays available)

This would give you inside / outside options and includes a griddle / hotplate to cook on.

We’re please with ours!

Thats exactly what cooker I would like to buy for cooking outside, but I’ve been ‘told’ we definitely need a double hob fitted inside the van, so was trying to see if possible to use same gas system.

 

[drinfinity]

I’m going with a Cadac Duo piped to a Thetford hob. Not built it yet, but the flow rate and pressure specifications line up. Benefit is, as you say, much less room than a 907. It fits behind the wheel arch without sticking out beyond it. It will have 1kg of gas.

 

[drinfinity]

Cadac Dual Power Pak (Threaded Cartridge) and Hose (0.85m) | Leisure Outlet

www.leisureoutlet.com

 

[Dellmassive]

Some good points above.

We run the cadac duo and run into cold can freezing causing low pressure during a hot summer let alone a winter.

Our bush fix was to drop the cans into a bowl of water whilst being used that helped take the cold out the cans and stabilise the temps better.

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We also use the single can burners which are awesome, they don't freeze as they are close to the cooking heat, but drop off in pressure below 1/4 can. So ultimately not cost effective for a long weekend.


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We have decided to use the larger KG bottles for the cadac2go and keep the single burner stoves alongside. With an added jet boil.



Larger bottle means cheaper gas, better pressure and no freezing issues.


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[Green Giant]

Some good points above.

We run the cadac duo and run into cold can freezing causing low pressure during a hot summer let alone a winter.

Our bush fix was to drop the cans into a bowl of water whilst being used that helped take the cold out the cans and stabilise the temps better.

........

We also use the single can burners which are awesome, they don't freeze as they are close to the cooking heat, but drop off in pressure below 1/4 can. So ultimately not cost effective for a long weekend.


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We have decided to use the larger KG bottles for the cadac2go and keep the single burner stoves alongside. With an added jet boil.



Larger bottle means cheaper gas, better pressure and no freezing issues.


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Thanks for info
Ok, Seems the freezing cans could be an issue, so now thinking it’s definitely camping gaz bottle in the van and have a separate gas source for outside

 

[Bigsidavies]

Evening
Would it be a bad.. idea to use these disposable gas cartridges instead of the normal camping gaz 907 etc?
We will be having a Smev double ring hob&sink fitted, just wondering if these canisterswould be more convenient, to store, to use outside on a small portable hob, and most places seem to sell them, or buy them in bulk.
Would ther be enough pressure, if both rings were in use at same time? Is this even possible to connect to these hobs , are there adaptors.
We are going for a U shape layout and only having one kitchen unit, and half of this will be the fridge.so will also be having two water containers in there, if we have a 907 I think we need a gas locker too.

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On a slight tangent, why are you having 2 water bottles? Is one a waste water container?
If space is limited then have a single fresh water container and run your waste straight out under the van. On sites place a collapsible bowl under the van. Elsewhere, be mindful of what you put down the sink-it’s usually only water and tea/coffee leftovers anyway.

 

[Green Giant]

On a slight tangent, why are you having 2 water bottles? Is one a waste water container?
If space is limited then have a single fresh water container and run your waste straight out under the van. On sites place a collapsible bowl under the van. Elsewhere, be mindful of what you put down the sink-it’s usually only water and tea/coffee leftovers anyway.

Hi
Yes one was for the grey waste, I hadn’t thought of having it drain though the floor, we would still need a second container to catch the water when we can’t drain onto the ground directly, and someway to stop it blowing away.
I’ll mention this to converter and get their advice on the waste bottle
Cheers

 

[Bigsidavies]

Hi
Yes one was for the grey waste, I hadn’t thought of having it drain though the floor, we would still need a second container to catch the water when we can’t drain onto the ground directly, and someway to stop it blowing away.
I’ll mention this to converter and get their advice on the waste bottle
Cheers

If you are only pouring down the sink leftover tea/coffee and water, which is usually what goes down the sink when not on a site, then it goes on the floor.
If on a site then place a collapsible bowl underneath. Ours has never blown away, but if that’s a concern then part fill it with water.

 

[Salty Spuds]

If you are only pouring down the sink leftover tea/coffee and water, which is usually what goes down the sink when not on a site, then it goes on the floor.
If on a site then place a collapsible bowl underneath. Ours has never blown away, but if that’s a concern then part fill it with water.

Yup we don’t have a waste water container either. Like you, all that goes down the sink is dregs & teeth brushing water. We have a collapsible sink bowl for everything else.

OP, have you considered an underslung refillable LPG tank?

 

[Green Giant]

Yup we don’t have a waste water container either. Like you, all that goes down the sink is dregs & teeth brushing water. We have a collapsible sink bowl for everything else.

OP, have you considered an underslung refillable LPG tank?

Going to definitely look into draining through floor, space is a premium, we would probably have brought a collapsible sink/ bucket thingy anyway for washing stuff outside or when staying on sites to carry to the wash up room.
Our van is a 4 motion so the spare wheel etc is taking up space underneath.
Although our heater is inside the van, under the drivers seat, it was installed there by previous owner as he didn’t want to drown it
Trying to keep the conversion costs affordable so we can to get it done this Spring, it’s later today we sit down with the converter to go though in detail what we are having fitted etc

 

[Salty Spuds]

Going to definitely look into draining through floor, space is a premium, we would probably have brought a collapsible sink/ bucket thingy anyway for washing stuff outside or when staying on sites to carry to the wash up room.
Our van is a 4 motion so the spare wheel etc is taking up space underneath.
Although our heater is inside the van, under the drivers seat, it was installed there by previous owner as he didn’t want to drown it
Trying to keep the conversion costs affordable so we can to get it done this Spring, it’s later today we sit down with the converter to go though in detail what we are having fitted etc

Ours is a 4mot too. We have a refillable Gaslow 6kg cylinder in the rear offside cupboard where the 907 traditionally goes. It lasts us a full year & we do 120+ nights a year in the van. I believe that there is now a tank that fits over the wheel arch & uses the otherwise wasted space around the rear wheel arch. Maybe worth a look. The re-fillable gas systems aren’t as expensive as you might think, and the ROI is very quick compared to buying the hideously expensive camping gaz 907s.

 

[drinfinity]

In my 4Motion I have underslung fresh water in skirt, heater under the floor (although the output comes up through the seat base, so that only saves a bit), Cadac as we discussed, and waste is going out through the floor. Collapsible bucket to catch the waste water where required.

Even with 4mo there is still underfloor space behind both rear wheels that could take additional tanks if needed, or levelling ramps with a suitable holster.