3D Scanning - might be interesting to someone…

[vwski]

Hey everyone,

I’ve seen some posts on here talking about 3D printing but nothing related directly to 3D scanning - please correct me if I’m wrong.
Scanning (along with 3D printing of course) is something I’ve been incorporating into my day job for a few years now but thought I’d start a thread to see if there’s anyone else out there with a similar interest…

I generally scan life or sculptures and have never scanned car parts or static objects as such before. This is something that I’ve always been interested in but never had the time to pursue due to a busy work schedule.

Anyway, I took some parts off my T6.1 a while back so they were screaming out to be my first victims!
This is literally my first go at scanning a car part and it’s far from perfect but I thought I would share it here for those that might want to see
I’ve also never uploaded a video here or to YouTube so that will be a test too. Let’s see if it works…

This model is ‘un-watertight’ with zero post processing. Basically just raw data with holes etc to see what / how it would capture. Can you guess the part???

If this upload works then I might post a video of another part for your enjoyment

Similarly if this is not suitable for this forum then could Admin please delete or move somewhere else. I won’t be offended!

Thanks!

 

[The_Lad]

Some info on what you use to scan it would be good my CAD work is terrible.

I think I saw something a while back where you could just take lots of photos of an object and use the photos to reproduce the item into CAD

 

[vwski]

Some info on what you use to scan it would be good my CAD work is terrible.

I think I saw something a while back where you could just take lots of photos of an object and use the photos to reproduce the item into CAD

Hey,
Sorry forgot to mention that. Doh. It was late last night!
I used a hybrid LED / Laser scanner for this by Einscan. Called a HX.
This was scanned in laser mode in roughly 4 sections and then aligned afterwards in the software. No markers were used on the part as that is what I was testing as well.
This is the part…



I’m in the process of learning ZBrush but also things like Fusion 360. I can capture the data but not necessarily do much with it afterwards just yet

 

[DaveCrampton]

If you can modify the parts to allow extra fixtures, like mounts for heater controls or lights, or hooks etc.. and then get them 3D printed, you might have a market!

I'm not sure hot this would work with copyright though.

 

[marty NCL]

Your scanned component looks very impressive.

I remember watching a video a while back, of a chap buying an overpriced grill, possibly a rare JDM part for an s13?
Bloke scanned it, remanufactured one from the 3d file, and sent it back!

Also still no clue where the trim piece is from? Kick panel? Seat trim? How embarrassing!

 

[BikerPa]

Hey everyone,

I’ve seen some posts on here talking about 3D printing but nothing related directly to 3D scanning - please correct me if I’m wrong.
Scanning (along with 3D printing of course) is something I’ve been incorporating into my day job for a few years now but thought I’d start a thread to see if there’s anyone else out there with a similar interest…

I generally scan life or sculptures and have never scanned car parts or static objects as such before. This is something that I’ve always been interested in but never had the time to pursue due to a busy work schedule.

Anyway, I took some parts off my T6.1 a while back so they were screaming out to be my first victims!
This is literally my first go at scanning a car part and it’s far from perfect but I thought I would share it here for those that might want to see
I’ve also never uploaded a video here or to YouTube so that will be a test too. Let’s see if it works…

This model is ‘un-watertight’ with zero post processing. Basically just raw data with holes etc to see what / how it would capture. Can you guess the part???

If this upload works then I might post a video of another part for your enjoyment

Similarly if this is not suitable for this forum then could Admin please delete or move somewhere else. I won’t be offended!

Thanks!

Chris @Dav-Tec has an interest & has been doing some 3D scanning.
I know he's very busy ATM generally but has been playing around with t6/T6.1 parts

 

[Dav-Tec]

Yeah we've got a few things in development ATM time is the thing for us

 

[vwski]

If you can modify the parts to allow extra fixtures, like mounts for heater controls or lights, or hooks etc.. and then get them 3D printed, you might have a market!

I'm not sure hot this would work with copyright though.

Yeah I'm not sure how copyright would work either really. I guess depends on the job. I 3D print as well so these technologies are like peas and carrots! ha ha.

Your scanned component looks very impressive.

I remember watching a video a while back, of a chap buying an overpriced grill, possibly a rare JDM part for an s13?
Bloke scanned it, remanufactured one from the 3d file, and sent it back!

Also still no clue where the trim piece is from? Kick panel? Seat trim? How embarrassing!

Thank you This part is from the side of a rear passenger seat. I have 2 seats in the 3rd row so this piece doesn't fit properly now because of hitting the wheel arch.

Chris @Dav-Tec has an interest & has been doing some 3D scanning.
I know he's very busy ATM generally but has been playing around with t6/T6.1 parts

Oh great. Hopefully see more at some point then

 

[The_Lad]

Wow just saw how much that scanner costs. Out of my price range for a hobby unfortunately

 

[vwski]

Wow just saw how much that scanner costs. Out of my price range for a hobby unfortunately

There are various prices and models out there and some are definitely aimed at hobbyists but they of course would never capture the same information as mine does.
Similarly there are other scanners out there that can cost 10 times more than mine.
My setup retails for around £14k and that's just for the hardware. Software is on top and that can cost thousands depending on your needs.

 

[BikerPa]

Yeah 3D scanners vary in price widely

We use a high accuracy intra oral one for dental work (crowns/veneers/bridges & mouthguards) accuracy is ~10microns as well as being colour accurate. However no use for large items like car parts

Dental ones ‘Start’ at ~£10k +vat but average about £17k+ before any PC, CAD SW or 3D printer/milling machine if producing restorations ‘in house’

It’s use has massively grown in general Dentistry (& medicine to a lesser extent) in UK over the last few years & allows us to not have to take impressions in many situations which patients love.

 

[vwski]

Yeah 3D scanners vary in price widely

We use a high accuracy intra oral one for dental work (crowns/veneers/bridges & mouthguards) accuracy is ~10microns as well as being colour accurate. However no use for large items like car parts

Dental ones ‘Start’ at ~£10k +vat but average about £17k+ before any PC, CAD SW or 3D printer/milling machine if producing restorations ‘in house’

It’s use has massively grown in general Dentistry (& medicine to a lesser extent) in UK over the last few years & allows us to not have to take impressions in many situations which patients love.

That’s the thing, one scanner doesn’t ‘do all’ unfortunately.
If you’re lucky enough to need a scanner for one particular reason then great but I need one that will do a variety of surfaces and sizes. This seems ideal for me right now although I’ve already got my eye on another.
I’ve always wanted to add another string to my bow and connect with other industries so having certain tech at my disposal might make that happen. Time will tell…
I’ve always had an interest in 3D scanning/rapid prototyping etc

 

[Dav-Tec]

@vwski are you a 3d designer by trade then?

@The_Lad we us a Creality Lizard, which at first was awful to use but now they've done several software revisions it's pretty good. Not massively expensive in comparison to most as it's aimed at hobbyists but for a small business like ours it's been perfect for scanning sections of the van to develop product and ideas even little brackets for installs so we can print them

 

[vwski]

@Dav-Tec hi there. No, I’m actually a Special FX Make-up Artist by trade but the 3D / digital / printing world is making a big impact on our industry at the moment and I’m still very much learning. I just love it though and always keen to learn and find new areas for potential business. Our industry was ruined over lockdown and I didn’t work at all. It’s really forced me to look at other avenues rather than having all my eggs in one basket.
I actually set up a pizza takeaway business over lockdown but sadly that’s had to stop now due to me focusing on my main business.
So with that in mind I made the decision to invest quite heavily a while back as I don’t want to be left behind with all this.
Trouble is it all changes so quickly! For example I’m currently waiting on another new printer to arrive but literally as soon as I ordered that a competitor announced theirs!
It’s great that it’s all moving so fast but slightly frustrating at the same time

 

[vwski]

Tried out a slightly more complex / detailed part…



Video link should hopefully show up here too…

 

[vwski]

Oh wow! New toy just arrived…

This thing is an absolute game changer when working in 3D space.
I honestly can’t believe how well this device works. It’s called a SpaceMouse And the technology is insane.
Again, not exactly cheap but instantly worth it in my opinion.

I found moving objects around in ZBrush really tricky to do with a standard mouse and very frustrating.
This will take a bit of getting used to but already I’m hooked

If anyone’s interested I’ll take a video of it in action…

 

[CamperBadger]

Yeah 3D scanners vary in price widely

We use a high accuracy intra oral one for dental work (crowns/veneers/bridges & mouthguards) accuracy is ~10microns as well as being colour accurate. However no use for large items like car parts

Dental ones ‘Start’ at ~£10k +vat but average about £17k+ before any PC, CAD SW or 3D printer/milling machine if producing restorations ‘in house’

It’s use has massively grown in general Dentistry (& medicine to a lesser extent) in UK over the last few years & allows us to not have to take impressions in many situations which patients love.

Yes - had a crown fitted recently. Original tooth was scanned in my mouth before it was shaped to fit the crown. Replacement is absolutely identical to the original tooth. Amazing tech.

 

[CJW]

Hi @vwski, I’m a pro modeller and hobbyist 3D printer. Are the scans from the device metric? I.e. if you scan something does the resulting mesh measure exactly the same as the real object?

 

[vwski]

Hi @vwski, I’m a pro modeller and hobbyist 3D printer. Are the scans from the device metric? I.e. if you scan something does the resulting mesh measure exactly the same as the real object?

Hey,
I’ve not heard the term ‘metric’ before when scanning but if I’m understanding you correctly then the answer is yes, definitely.
The scans taken with this device are captured extremely accurately and are pretty much exactly the same in dimension to the real object.
These can be saved as an STL or OBJ for example, sent to an FDM or Resin printer and they would come out the same as the original.
Is that what you mean buddy or have I misunderstood?

Most people won’t need the high level of accuracy and resolution that this device can achieve but it’s there if needed. I need the best resolution that I can get (within my budget of course!) but ‘accuracy’ is not so important usually.
For example, depending on the scanning mode used, the scan accuracy is up to 40microns with a volumetric accuracy over 1m also up to 40microns. Point distance/resolution is up to 50microns.

What do you do in the Pro Modeller world? What applications and software do you specialise in?

Hope that’s answered your query?

 

[CJW]

Hey,
I’ve not heard the term ‘metric’ before when scanning but if I’m understanding you correctly then the answer is yes, definitely.
The scans taken with this device are captured extremely accurately and are pretty much exactly the same in dimension to the real object.
These can be saved as an STL or OBJ for example, sent to an FDM or Resin printer and they would come out the same as the original.
Is that what you mean buddy or have I misunderstood?

Most people won’t need the high level of accuracy and resolution that this device can achieve but it’s there if needed. I need the best resolution that I can get (within my budget of course!) but ‘accuracy’ is not so important usually.
For example, depending on the scanning mode used, the scan accuracy is up to 40microns with a volumetric accuracy over 1m also up to 40microns. Point distance/resolution is up to 50microns.

What do you do in the Pro Modeller world? What applications and software do you specialise in?

Hope that’s answered your query?

It does answer, thank you. I’ll PM you.