VW closes T6.1 order book today (3/3/23) !!!! - T7 Next? or T8?

The design is up there with the Fiat Multipla. Design team should be shot dead whilst their families watch (can you tell I dont like it?) :think smile bounce:
The Fiat Multipla was a genius bit of packaging though. I wish they still made something in that format. It might have looked like a frog, but Fiat knew it - they were delivered in the UK with a sticker in the rear window that read, "wait until you see the front". I think they're cool precisely because they weren't trying to be cool at all.
 
All joking apart that Id Buzz comes with the big wheels, lowered suspension and two tone paint from the factory saving a lot of buying the "wrong" big wheels, aftermarket suspension or dubious two tone combo.
I would have one, really liked that lime green one at Busfest last year.
 
No surprises here, surely?

New electric cars are overpriced; the technology is immature; the infrastructure is woefully inadequate; and now that the keen, the green and browbeaten have bought-in to the segment, there's only the indifferent, the sceptical and the downright hostile left to sell to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, I think that EV's are going to be the automotive equivalent of the Betamax, I think hydrogen is going to be the way forward eventually.
 
Yes, I think that EV's are going to be the automotive equivalent of the Betamax, I think hydrogen is going 3be the way forward eventually.
Agree re hydrogen. The Betamax analogy is slightly misleading though, as Betamax was technically superior and only lost out to VHS on commercial grounds. IMO electric cars are inferior to ICE in both regards and would likely have ended up a technological cul-de-sac if it were not for the political classes' aspiration to restrict personal transport (thereby rendering the range issue irrelevant).
 
Agree re hydrogen. The Betamax analogy is slightly misleading though, as Betamax was technically superior and only lost out to VHS on commercial grounds. IMO electric cars are inferior to ICE in both regards and would likely have ended up a technological cul-de-sac if it were not for the political classes' aspiration to restrict personal transport (thereby rendering the range issue irrelevant).
Surely the instant torque and acceleration of an electric motor is never going to go away. I agree that battery fuelled vehicles may not be the long term future of private transport, but having seen and experienced the effortless grunt of an EV, I can’t envisage a future without some sort of hybrid that will harness that power.
 
Surely the instant torque and acceleration of an electric motor is never going to go away. I agree that battery fuelled vehicles may not be the long term future of private transport, but having seen and experienced the effortless grunt of an EV, I can’t envisage a future without some sort of hybrid that will harness that power.
Fair comment - EVs do have some advantages.
 
I bet they share the same mechanics. That’s the reason they platform share to cut costs and use the one design in a different outfit
 
Agree re hydrogen. The Betamax analogy is slightly misleading though, as Betamax was technically superior and only lost out to VHS on commercial grounds. IMO electric cars are inferior to ICE in both regards and would likely have ended up a technological cul-de-sac if it were not for the political classes' aspiration to restrict personal transport (thereby rendering the range issue irrelevant).
Didn’t VHS win over Betamax only because the porn industry backed VHS? If only Pornhub backed EV and it’ll be a done deal
 
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