Vb Air Suspension - Let's Discuss...

Discussion in 'Suspension Steering Brakes' started by kn0bby, 29 May 2019.

  1. Eli1264

    Eli1264 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

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    A & E Leisure told me its a full suspension system
     
  2. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    I sent an inquiry to them to see if we can find out what make of shocks they base the kit on . If they are standard VW OEM parts the ride will be no better that running a standard van sadly .
     
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  3. t0mb0

    t0mb0 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

    I’ve got the VB system and the ride was very definitely improved over the original in our case.
     
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  4. Eli1264

    Eli1264 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

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    Are you still running on standard wheels or have you gone to a bigger wheel
     
  5. t0mb0

    t0mb0 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

    No, standard 17 wheels. Practicality and comfort are king for us, not very bothered about getting a specific look.
     
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  6. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    From this comment I am intrigued as to the choice of kit ??
     
  7. t0mb0

    t0mb0 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

    It’s a camper, and there are a few reasons VB kits are popular with campers who value comfort and practicality:

    1) Decent, comfortable ride quality.
    2) Lowest mode allows you to crawl under 2m barriers, even with a non-low-profile poptop.
    3) Highest mode helps with bumpy tracks and fields.
    4) Auto-level is just amazing for parking up on not perfectly level surfaces.
    5) Agreement with VW means factory warranty is unaffected.
     
  8. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    Ok that makes lots of sense , I want to understand customer requirements as in the new year we are launching our own range of Air systems and we were convinced to look into by some Wheel chair users who were experiencing problems with a side exit wheel chair access ramp . Thank you .
    Having dealt with VW at factory level , what they say about after market kits and what happens in practice sometime contradict each other .
     
  9. Richard f

    Richard f Member T6 Pro

    Vb air suspension was a factory option but was removed because the lack of interest
     
  10. Martinf

    Martinf Senior Member VIP Member T6 Pro

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    I would support all of @t0mb0 observations with the lower car park mode and self levelling being particularly useful for us.
     
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  11. Shaun Witts

    Shaun Witts Senior Member VIP Member T6 Pro

    I've found VB air to be an improvement in ride over my standard T32 suspension, with better handling when cornering. It is less harsh, and less jittery than I sometimes encountered on certain roads with the standard set-up. There is also less body roll, though probably because I usually drive it in the lower sport mode. As I have an LPG tank where the spare wheel goes, I also appreciate the "off-road" mode for additional height on the occasional rough track that I might encounter. But I especially appreciate the self-levelling mode as I work away from home, and sleep in my van 2/3 nights a week.
     
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  12. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    Yes it has to be a completely new suspension system, what we are trying to find out is if the shocks they base the kit on is indeed the standard VW shocks.
     
  13. Eli1264

    Eli1264 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

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    I've asked them the question, so I see what answer they come back with
     
  14. Martinf

    Martinf Senior Member VIP Member T6 Pro

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    The shocks are an integral part of the air bag, so I don’t see how they are standard OEM parts.
     
  15. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    The manufacturer of these types of kits aren't shock manufacturers, they take a standard shock with out the spring seat and engineer a support to carry the airbag .
    Look close at the picture at the beginning of the thread . the shock is identical to a standard shock but no spring seat just a support plate for the air spring . There is nothing wrong with this process , my point was simply that the standard shock isn't that great so to use it in a very expensive kit seems Odd .
     
  16. Eli1264

    Eli1264 Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

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    Just spoke to A&E Leisure, the shock is an ALKO shock :thumbsup:
     
  17. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    I spoke to head office as well , Interesting chat with them . very different product to what I thought . they said shocks are either KONI or ALKO . I know KONI very well as I am the importer for KONI into southern Africa , Never heard of ALKO but I don't thing they are in the performance industry so I probably wouldn't have .
     
  18. T6 dork

    T6 dork Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

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  19. CRS Performance

    CRS Performance Suspension specialist Trade Member T6 Pro

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    Remember this is air pressure holding the car off the ground , the lower you trick the car into going means the air bags have less PRESSURE in them.
    Effectively the spring rate of the air bag isn't as designed and the suspension will get wallowy and unstable in my opinion . Better to buy a kit that is designed to go low than spend all the money on a kit and then miss use it >
     
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  20. T6 dork

    T6 dork Senior Member VIP Member T6 Guru

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    Good piont CP ,, one can always try and then re-adjust back to were it was..
    but i use these lowering rods on my Audi A8 which has air bags as standard and its perfect..
    i also have lowered my Caravelle VB air about 15mm on the front because it just didnt look right, to no adverse effect..
     
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