Nice! Can you share some pictures when you have it attached? Maybe share a few thoughts?
Looking forward to it!
Looking forward to it!
The Big Bike Carrier Topic - Hoping to build a FAQ and list of Racks
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It was delivered today, very quick. Only had it out of the box, read through the manual and put the number plate on. It looks and feels solid, heavy but not too heavy. Typically it's absolutely chucking it down today so I'm not going to fit it yet and the van needs the go in for some work, so might be the weekend before I have a chance to fit it.
Ok so managed to get the bike carrier fitted today, but not without some hassle. The instructions are basic but easy enough to follow. Mostly pictorial.
Something to note, I have never had a vehicle with a towbar before so this was as much about me understanding how they work.
My towbar electrics are the 7 pin type and the carrier has a 13 pin plug. The carrier comes with a 13 to 7 pin adapter when bought from the Roof box company, which is useful....sort of.
The problem is that due to the shape of the carrier and where my 7 pin socket is on the van, using the adapter means there is not enough clearance to actually plug it in Hopefully the pictures show you what I mean.
I considered a few options but in the end I opted to change the 7 pin socket on the van for a 13 pin socket. Bought a Maypole 13 pin euro socket for m Euro Car Parts as they had 1 in stock for collection (£7.99). I followed the attached diagram for the wiring and it was simple enough to connect up, if a little fiddly. Once done all the lights (Inc brake) and indicators worked, but as my wiring loom only has the 7 wires this means pin 8 can't be used which would be for reversing lamps.
Naturally the carrier interferes with the parking sensors, which isn't much of an issue as I can simply turn them off in the van by pressing a button and just use the camera.
Overall the carrier works well, feels sturdy and the barn doors open with a couple of inches clearance once the sliding mechanism has been opened. This mechanism is simple to use. You slide a switch across just above the number plate then push down on the lip just below the number plate.
Any questions let me know.
Something to note, I have never had a vehicle with a towbar before so this was as much about me understanding how they work.
My towbar electrics are the 7 pin type and the carrier has a 13 pin plug. The carrier comes with a 13 to 7 pin adapter when bought from the Roof box company, which is useful....sort of.
The problem is that due to the shape of the carrier and where my 7 pin socket is on the van, using the adapter means there is not enough clearance to actually plug it in Hopefully the pictures show you what I mean.
I considered a few options but in the end I opted to change the 7 pin socket on the van for a 13 pin socket. Bought a Maypole 13 pin euro socket for m Euro Car Parts as they had 1 in stock for collection (£7.99). I followed the attached diagram for the wiring and it was simple enough to connect up, if a little fiddly. Once done all the lights (Inc brake) and indicators worked, but as my wiring loom only has the 7 wires this means pin 8 can't be used which would be for reversing lamps.
Naturally the carrier interferes with the parking sensors, which isn't much of an issue as I can simply turn them off in the van by pressing a button and just use the camera.
Overall the carrier works well, feels sturdy and the barn doors open with a couple of inches clearance once the sliding mechanism has been opened. This mechanism is simple to use. You slide a switch across just above the number plate then push down on the lip just below the number plate.
Any questions let me know.
Hi @Mister-E , thanks for the 'review' fitting.
You might be able to make some sort of adapter plate which brings the Electronics a bit more to the front (or to the back depending how you look at it?) at this moment it seems like a simple metal plate where the plug is mounted an most likely easy to replace.
How are the rattles? Managed to fit a bike of 2 already?
You might be able to make some sort of adapter plate which brings the Electronics a bit more to the front (or to the back depending how you look at it?) at this moment it seems like a simple metal plate where the plug is mounted an most likely easy to replace.
How are the rattles? Managed to fit a bike of 2 already?
I did look at various adapter plates for the electronics and also my towbar has a drop plate, but after wrestling with the 2 massive bolts that hold the towbar on and failing to budge it, I settled for changing the socket
There doesn't appear to be any rattles, certainly nothing I can hear or feel when moving. I am however going to test it further with different bikes. Happy with it...so far.
So tried 2 different bikes with different wheelbases on the carrier and it's initially like solving a puzzle, trying to figure out how they will best for together. Managed to get them on and secured. I'd be happy with how secure they are in general.
It's odd because I've only ever used a bike carrier that secures to the boot/tailgate using straps and this doesn't feel any more or less secure. I think I expected more, but never had an issue using that so I'm sure it will be fine.
My only concern is ground clearance on transition from slope to flat, or vice versa. My drive is quite steep and there was about 2 inches of clearance (according to the missus) reversing off the drive with the rack fitted but no bikes. Next task, when it's light, is to do that with bikes added....
Anyway for now I added a video of the rack in operation.
Does anyone have a Spinder TX2 bikecarrier?? and has it fitted on a Volkswagen T6?
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Nieuw maar toch vertrouwd!De Spinder Xplorer+ hebben we in een nieuw jasje gegoten zonder iets te wijzigen aan zijn unieke specificaties. Zo is deze fietsendrag
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Hi Gents!
I wanted to share this with you, I am not 100% sure but I think worth sharing.
Uebler I21 carriers
So normally, the uebler I21 doesn't fit due to its 60°, the [Tailgate] with a "steinhof" towbar doesn't clear the carrier by a 2cm.
Normally, you would need the "Uebler i21 Z" carrier which has an angle of 90°. But these are a little bit more scarce on the market. And if you are like me looking to save some money, the second hand market is quite small.
Another option/variant
But, I learned something else. There is also a Original Volkswagen accessorie called:
"Kupplungstrager i21 VW", which has a 90° angle and is cheaper. For example:
shop.autohaus-hildesheim.de
Modifying a i21 to fit a T6
Now, I've got both in my hands and was able to compare them. This is what I found out and therefor I think you can easily modify the regular "uebler i21" so that it fits a T6 with tailgate.
The original Uebler I21, viewed from the bottom
The VW variant:
As you u can see, they carved away 2cm of that allu bracket which allows it to rotate further. This is basically the only difference I could spot.
#### Disclaimer ####
I AM NOT 100% sure if there are no other differences, I did not compare with a Z variant. I have asked Uebler what carrier this exactly is.
But if this is it , you can either way get yourself a cheaper VW alternative, or you can modify an existing I21 from the secondhand market and make it compatible with the T6.
Anyway, only thing I don't like is that it angles so far that they always lean on the MTB handlebars when tilted. But this is as far as I can tell, by design.
Let me know your thoughts!
I wanted to share this with you, I am not 100% sure but I think worth sharing.
Uebler I21 carriers
So normally, the uebler I21 doesn't fit due to its 60°, the [Tailgate] with a "steinhof" towbar doesn't clear the carrier by a 2cm.
Normally, you would need the "Uebler i21 Z" carrier which has an angle of 90°. But these are a little bit more scarce on the market. And if you are like me looking to save some money, the second hand market is quite small.
Another option/variant
But, I learned something else. There is also a Original Volkswagen accessorie called:
"Kupplungstrager i21 VW", which has a 90° angle and is cheaper. For example:
Uebler I21, 679,00 €
Der Fahrradträger Premium zum Transport von zwei Fahrrädern oder E-Bikes besticht durch seinen intelligenten Leichtbau und seine innovative Befestigung.
Modifying a i21 to fit a T6
Now, I've got both in my hands and was able to compare them. This is what I found out and therefor I think you can easily modify the regular "uebler i21" so that it fits a T6 with tailgate.
The original Uebler I21, viewed from the bottom
The VW variant:
As you u can see, they carved away 2cm of that allu bracket which allows it to rotate further. This is basically the only difference I could spot.
#### Disclaimer ####
I AM NOT 100% sure if there are no other differences, I did not compare with a Z variant. I have asked Uebler what carrier this exactly is.
But if this is it , you can either way get yourself a cheaper VW alternative, or you can modify an existing I21 from the secondhand market and make it compatible with the T6.
Anyway, only thing I don't like is that it angles so far that they always lean on the MTB handlebars when tilted. But this is as far as I can tell, by design.
Let me know your thoughts!
Hi, how are you getting on with the bike rack? I've been looking at the Atera Genio Pro Advanced for our tailgate T6 but I have some pros and cons still:
Pros: we already have a towbar fitted; I will generally only carry one bike and maybe occasionally a second for a mate; I like that it's low down for loading/unloading; unlikely to damage the paintwork.
Cons: what do you do with it when parked up? isn't it easy for someone else to come along and remove it if you are away from the van? also if I'm away for a few weeks I don't really want to drive around with a bike rack attached for parking etc, but where to store if I'm on a campsite? also I have a reversing camera, doesn't it interfere with that?
would really appreciate a real world view as I'm going back and forth! cheers.
It does interfere with parking sensors, but not the camera other than looking through what's being carried. I just turn the sensors off and it would depend where your camera is. Mine is fairly central near the number plate.
As for it being stolen, it is locked in place using a key, as are each bike, but its only a deterrent, not completely theft proof if someone was determined enough and had the time and tools.
Thanks for the quick response! Any thoughts on storage when away from home and not in use? And would you ever swap it for a tailgate mounted one or are you happy with it?
I would prefer a tail gate one, but as I have barn doors this seemed the best option, especially being able to open them.
When you say away from home and not in use i assume you mean when you're out on bikes? It would be daft for someone to steal it as they'd have to pretty much destroy it if locked and/or remove your tow bar. Other than that I store it in my garage hanging on wall hooks.
Yeah meant when out on the bikes, I Audax so van would be parked up for a number of hours.
Parked somewhere public I'm sure it would be fine. I wouldn't be worried if did the same.
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Does anyone have the Atera Evo RV on a T6.1 with factory fit Westfalia detachable towbar? Same question for Uebler H21 Z90?
hi all,
So today I'm the new proud owner of an Audi rear bike rack, sku 4K2071105, that I picked up BNIB on Facebook marketplace for £220.
I'm pretty sure this is a Uebler P22S rack.
Anyway, works a treat, solid, well put together, dead easy to fit, and bikes tip away from the tailgate to a 90 degree tilt, allowing full access to the rear and allowing the tailgate to open. Only downside is that it doesn't have any rear sensors. But it's a great option for a T6/6.1 tailgate bike rack.
Would recommend.
So today I'm the new proud owner of an Audi rear bike rack, sku 4K2071105, that I picked up BNIB on Facebook marketplace for £220.
I'm pretty sure this is a Uebler P22S rack.
Anyway, works a treat, solid, well put together, dead easy to fit, and bikes tip away from the tailgate to a 90 degree tilt, allowing full access to the rear and allowing the tailgate to open. Only downside is that it doesn't have any rear sensors. But it's a great option for a T6/6.1 tailgate bike rack.
Would recommend.
Yep, 60kg for my 2 bike version.
The rack itself weighs 14kg.
Quick update for anyone interested.hi all,
So today I'm the new proud owner of an Audi rear bike rack, sku 4K2071105, that I picked up BNIB on Facebook marketplace for £220.
I'm pretty sure this is a Uebler P22S rack.
Anyway, works a treat, solid, well put together, dead easy to fit, and bikes tip away from the tailgate to a 90 degree tilt, allowing full access to the rear and allowing the tailgate to open. Only downside is that it doesn't have any rear sensors. But it's a great option for a T6/6.1 tailgate bike rack.
Would recommend.
Just spotted another of these, London area, £295 on FB Marketplace in case anyone is interested.
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