Stop/Start module

As an aside I was watching a youtube vid last night entitled something like definitive proof that stop/start seriously damages your engine. They (German engineers) were using a customers T6.1 and continuously stop starting with a computer programme for days/weeks. And then stripping the engine after to show the obvious damage to the big end shells. Anyway im speeding through what was actually done. But it further solidified it for me.
Bit of an extreme case if it was stopping and starting continuously for weeks!
 
Bit of an extreme case if it was stopping and starting continuously for weeks!
Thats how manufacturers test equipment whether it’s electronic, electrical or mechanical. Most will want to just meet a minimum threshold, say 100000 cycles, the fear is that equipment lasts too long, that is not good for business.
If the general public knew how much work goes into ensuring their fridges and freezers fail within so many thermostat cycles they may not believe the corporate environmental BS that these multi national companies spout.
All about mean time before failure and most importantly £££££
 
The same manufacturer that tested to ensure their cars met emissions standards? Not.

I dont trust them as businessmen, and I dont trust them as engineers.
 
I've actually got one of those little in line plug in things somewhere indoors that I took out after trying it. As somebody mentioned above, it only took 5 minutes to install but my problem was that it interfered with my Autowatch Ghost 2 immobiliser. I fitted the device and then went for a test drive to a local supermarket for some shopping but when I went to restart the engine it took 4 attempts with the correct button sequence to get it going. I drove home, took it out and all was OK again so I then refitted it and had the same result as before. After that it went into a drawer never to be seen again. The disarming sequence did NOT include the stop start button and I don't know enough to say why the engine started after a few attempts rather than first time as usual but I've learnt to live with stop start now. That said, I'm going to see what Carista will do for me later on.

See post #36.
 
I've actually got one of those little in line plug in things somewhere indoors that I took out after trying it. As somebody mentioned above, it only took 5 minutes to install but my problem was that it interfered with my Autowatch Ghost 2 immobiliser. I fitted the device and then went for a test drive to a local supermarket for some shopping but when I went to restart the engine it took 4 attempts with the correct button sequence to get it going. I drove home, took it out and all was OK again so I then refitted it and had the same result as before. After that it went into a drawer never to be seen again. The disarming sequence did NOT include the stop start button and I don't know enough to say why the engine started after a few attempts rather than first time as usual but I've learnt to live with stop start now. That said, I'm going to see what Carista will do for me later on.
As far as I understand the way that these devices work is the if the stop start was OFF when the ignition was turned off them it remembers that. WHen you next start the van, the stop start will come on, the module then recognises this and “pushes the button’ (sends a signal) to turn the stop start off. Im guessing the Ghost interprets that as you pressing the stop start, hence like you pressed the wrong sequence of buttons.
 
@Ali-G Can you expand on that please?

When I had the Ghost fitted to my Golf the fitter asked me if I wanted him to set a particular code sequence or if I wanted to do it myself.
I said that I wanted to incorporate the Stop/Start button into the sequence and he said "there's no need, I can set the Ghost up to disable it"
He plugged his laptop in somewhere and pressed a few keys and it was done.
As above, it now remembers the last setting and I never need to manually disable.
I think you'd probably need to speak to your installer and see if they can do it for you.
 
@Skyliner33. Maybe Im being thicker than usual but I really don't understand what you're trying to say there.
@Ali-G. My Ghost was fitted 5 or 6 years ago now and even if the bloke is still in business, I doubt he would be interested (without charging anyway!). As I said above, nowadays I've learnt to live with stop start but I'm still going to have a poke around in Carista when I get a chance.
 
@Skyliner33. Maybe Im being thicker than usual but I really don't understand what you're trying to say there.
@Ali-G. My Ghost was fitted 5 or 6 years ago now and even if the bloke is still in business, I doubt he would be interested (without charging anyway!). As I said above, nowadays I've learnt to live with stop start but I'm still going to have a poke around in Carista when I get a chance.
Maybe I didnt explain very well.
Basically the Stop-start gizmo thingy presses the stop start button for you every time you switch the ignition on- turning stop start off.
The Ghost will see this as you pressing the stop start button. SO interfering with the code sequence you press to allow the engine to be started.
 
Just been doing a bit of a search. Information from vag-coding.net

It seem that with VCDS or OBDEleven there are 2 ways. First is a vlotage limit, and the second temperature (the way I did it on the T6).
 
I guess potentially more damage could be done to the engine and components with the stop start enabled? …rather than the engine idling over creating soot which may not be burned off, with the stop start disabled?
 
You’re correct but there’s a balance, I think most people used their judgement long before Stop / Start was installed and turned off the engine.
 
Well I plugged in my Carista dongle just now to find that stop/start isn't an option for the T6 (or. at least, not my T6) and the only option available to me was 'Disable brake pad warning light' - a subsequent check on the Carista website seems to confirm that's correct. I also plugged into my ageing (2014) Audi Q5 to find the disabling stop/start was an option as well as a setting to remember whether it was on or off when the engine was last switched off.
 
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