Class action - is it fair

[Mwillis]

I noticed a few adverts for a UK class action against VW (they lost in Europe or the US of course) and as I understand it UK lawyers are now claiming against VW on the same basis for UK vehicle owners.

The bit I thought was potentially unfair is that if you bought a vehicle up to 2020 i.e. post knowing about the "slightly potentially misleading claims VW may or may not have made" you can still claim.

I wasn't sure I agreed with this as you were aware what you were buying before you did.... does not feel totally fair to me.

 

[DaveD]

I'm sure VW will have very good lawyers capable of defending any claim, and my sympathy is reserved for people who have been shafted by VW;
Like the loyal customer who has owned several VW's who is told that his 4 year old T6 with a full dealer service history and only 50K miles needs a new engine, at a cost of £13,000.

New engine required - apparently - what would you do?

Advice required please folks! My 2017 204 Kombi with 50k on the clock started to misfire recently. Has now been taken to VW dealer who diagnosed lack of compression on one cylinder and new engine required at a cost of £13k + vat - yes you read that correctly. I am now awaiting a breakdown of...

www.t6forum.com

 

[DXX]

My heart bleeds for them, where do I donate the money?

 

[TitanCamper]

I understand what you mean but it's not as if VW pulled the plug on these impacted engines. They continued to sell vehicles without making the customer aware of the design flaws. I'm fairly mechanically minded, and when I bought my T6, I thought it was a bit of a software update based on emissions. In the years since, it's now been made clear by a VW service tech I know that the 'cheat' was absolutely done to prevent big ticket items like the DPF etc failing after 20k instead of their original 80-100k due to the number of regens running since the software 'fix'. Screw VW!

 

[DaveD]

My heart bleeds for them, where do I donate the money?

I've been appointed as their intermediary, all donations have to come to me first and I forward it all on.
Please be generous!

 

[Skyliner33]

Oh, where do I apply, I have had 3 vehicles that qualify for this

 

[Loz]

I don't understand how these lawsuits stick, as the cheat software didn't affect the performance of the vehicles it was just a lie on emissions outputted, so are all the owners joining this suddenly concerned about their past buying decisions and now all driving electric vehicles? I think not!

And as far as I know, this is not about the software added to fix the problem that I would have a gripe about...

If not, someone please educate me on this...

 

[A Bridge Too Far]

I don't understand how these lawsuits stick, as the cheat software didn't affect the performance of the vehicles it was just a lie on emissions outputted, so are all the owners joining this suddenly concerned about their past buying decisions and now all driving electric vehicles? I think not!

And as far as I know, this is not about the software added to fix the problem that I would have a gripe about...

If not, someone please educate me on this...

I understand what you mean but it's not as if VW pulled the plug on these impacted engines. They continued to sell vehicles without making the customer aware of the design flaws. I'm fairly mechanically minded, and when I bought my T6, I thought it was a bit of a software update based on emissions. In the years since, it's now been made clear by a VW service tech I know that the 'cheat' was absolutely done to prevent big ticket items like the DPF etc failing after 20k instead of their original 80-100k due to the number of regens running since the software 'fix'. Screw VW!

This was the post that stood out to me.

 

[dubber36]

I had 2 cars with the affected EA189 engines at the time. A B7 Passat and a Mk6 Golf. The internet was full of stories of the 'fix' causing EGR problems, so I was happy to leave the cars exactly as they were. They both performed as I had expected them to do when I bought them, and neither lost any more value than they would have done ordinarily.

Perhaps I may have felt agreived if I'd had the 'fix' then had to stump up to replace the EGR, or the VED band had been considerably bumped up, but that wasn't the case at all.

 

[DaveD]

I don't understand how these lawsuits stick, as the cheat software didn't affect the performance of the vehicles it was just a lie on emissions outputted, so are all the owners joining this suddenly concerned about their past buying decisions and now all driving electric vehicles? I think not!

Totally agree - VW intentionally deceived the EU Emissions regulators, not us buyers. As far as I know VW were fined by the EU for their trickery. I can't see how buyers of VW products have been caused any financial loss by the deception unless the software fix caused engine problems. It'd be hard to claim that we've suffered abnormally high depreciation!
It's not something I'd get involved in.