Air Condensor Radiator

[Urban Andy]

Heya, just purchased a new 6 month old T6 highline van which needs a new condensor radiator unit... Does anyone know were i could maybe get a used one or a cheaper one... Currently pricing one around £500.. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!

 

[Pauly]

Cant get it done under warranty or is it damaged ?

 

[Volkywagen]

If it’s not a warranty job you will be able to get it re cored. Cheaper than a new one

 

[Urban Andy]

heya cant get it under warranty as its damaged from a smash pauly....I dont know what you mean re-cored Volky??... Would it be possible to use a T5.1 condensor radiator?... Im assuming itll be the same??... id be a bit weary of using a T5 as i believe theirs significant differences between t5-t6 but not so much between t5.1-t6 is that right?....

 

[Fish]

Scrap yard.. ?

 

[Urban Andy]

I've been enquiring on partshark they have quite a few of 2015-2018 transporters for breaking so hopefully i might get a response!... Thanks for reply guys ill keep yous up to date and let you know how the whole thing goes!...

 

[andys]

Before I book in to have this work done, can anyone confirm that this is definitely the condenser/ radiator for the aircon that I have damaged? It’s at the top of the grille, behind the uppermost slats, to the left of the badge (when looking from the front). I’m 99% sure as there was gas spraying out that stopped after a few minutes and nothing else has come out. I was sure until I did a quick forum search and found a couple of people saying the radiator at the front was the intercooler and that the ac condenser was behind that. Wouldn’t it carry on peeing out water if I’d hit that?

 

[Dellmassive]

this any good?

3x rads, infront of each other.

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[Niknak]

Did gas come out or did coolant ? Also does air con work and is coolant level low ?

 

[DXX]

I remember you said that after damaging it there was a fog in the garage, that would have been refrigerant evaporating. Anything else would have left a puddle of coolant on the floor.

 

[andys]

this any good?

3x rads, infront of each other.

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Brilliant, that seems to confirm it, thanks

 

[andys]

Did gas come out or did coolant ? Also does air con work and is coolant level low ?

It definitely seemed like gas. I’ve had no opportunity to drive the van since then and I won’t be able to look at it til I’m back at the weekend.

 

[andys]

I remember you said that after damaging it there was a fog in the garage, that would have been refrigerant evaporating. Anything else would have left a puddle of coolant on the floor.

That’s what I thought, just a couple of posts from a year or two back got me doubting myself

 

[DXX]

That’s what I thought, just a couple of posts from a year or two back got me doubting myself

I’m no AC specialist but I believe the T6 AC compressor is permanently engaged (not clutched), if you run the engine you may damage the compressor if oil has been lost.
Maybe somebody here with T6 AC experience?

 

[andys]

I’m no AC specialist but I believe the T6 AC compressor is permanently engaged (not clutched), if you run the engine you may damage the compressor if oil has been lost.
Maybe somebody here with T6 AC experience?

Oh crap, I’d have to drive it about 12 miles to get to the garage

 

[Dellmassive]

just had a quick look at mine . .

seems the front rad (water rad for charge cooler) comes up as far as the botton of the round VW logo,

Then the middle rad is exposed. . . . (assuming its the AC condenser) wich goes up to the top of the round VW logo.

The right at the top you see the rear rad . . . (Main radiator)


its difficult to make out on camera due to the front grill.


a few pics . .

 

[andys]

just had a quick look at mine . .

seems the front rad (water rad for charge cooler) comes up as far as the botton of the round VW logo,

Then the middle rad is exposed. . . . (assuming its the AC condenser) wich goes up to the top of the round VW logo.

The right at the top you see the rear rad . . . (Main radiator)


its difficult to make out on camera due to the front grill.


a few pics . .

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Thanks. On the photo of mine the damage seems to be immediately to the left of the badge. I think you can see a thick silver line on mine which I think must be the top of the AC rad then the one above must be the last radiator. I’m convinced enough now to book it in, just hope the journey doesn’t damage the system.

 

[Dellmassive]

a few bits here . . .




Commissioning of air conditioning system after filling refrigerant circuit

– Switch on ignition.
– Set fresh air blower speed to at least level 3 on operating and
display unit.
– Set temperature to max. cold on operating and display unit.
– Set air distribution to torso on operating and display unit.
– Start engine with air conditioner compressor switched off (ver‐
sion with magnetic clutch).
– Following idling speed stabilisation, switch on air conditioning
system using A/C button on operating and display unit.

– Allow engine to run for at least 2 minutes at less than 1500 rpm with air conditioning system switched on.

Risk of damage to the air conditioner compressor or air condi‐
tioner service station.
Opening the valves with the air conditioning system switched
on can cause a short circuit between the high pressure and low
pressure side.
– Never open valves on the high pressure or low pressure side
with the air conditioning system switched on.
– If necessary, check pressures in refrigerant circuit using air
conditioner service station .
– Switch off engine.
– Turn out handwheel on quick-release coupling adapter.
– Detach the charging hose from the refrigerant circuit.
– Screw protective caps back on.



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Air conditioner compressor





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Removing

Note

Instead of the poly V-belts being removed completely, they are

just removed from the air conditioner compressor pulley.
– Relieve tension from poly V-belt ⇒ Rep. gr. 13 ; Cylinder block
on pulley side; Removing and installing poly V-belt .
– Remove poly V-belt from air conditioner compressor pulley.
Vehicles with R134a refrigerant
– Drain refrigerant circuit ⇒ Air conditioning system with R134a
refrigerant; Rep. gr. 00 ; Working with air conditioner service
station .
Vehicles with R1234yf refrigerant
– Drain refrigerant circuit ⇒ Air conditioning systems with re‐
frigerant R1234yf - general information; Rep. gr. 87 ; Working
with air conditioner service station; Draining refrigerant circuit .
Continued for all vehicles

CAUTION

Risk of freezing injury caused by escaping pressurised refrig‐ There is a risk of injury to the skin and parts of the body due to freezing. – Wear protective gloves. – Wear protective goggles. – Extract refrigerant and open the refrigerant circuit immedi‐ ately afterwards. – If more than 10 minutes have passed since the refrigerant was extracted, repeat the extraction process before opening the refrigerant circuit. Pressure could build up in the refrig‐ erant circuit from continued evaporation.

erant.
– For any further work, immediately seal open lines and con‐
nections with clean plugs from engine bung set - VAS 6122- .


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Installing

Install in reverse order of removal, observing the following:

Procedure for installing new air conditioner compressor – Determine refrigerant oil volume in removed air conditioner compressor by draining oil into measuring beaker.

Note

Collect refrigerant oil from the new air conditioner compressor in
a suitable container for reuse.
– Drain refrigerant oil from new air conditioner compressor.
– Fill exact same amount of refrigerant oil into the new, emptied
air conditioner compressor as that determined in the removed
air conditioner compressor.

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Procedure for installing new air conditioner compressor
– Use ⇒ Vehicle diagnostic tester to run-in air conditioner com‐
pressor.
Note
♦ The LED of the A/C button flashes while the air conditioner
compressor runs-in.
♦ The end of air conditioner compressor run-in is indicated by
the LED of the A/C button going out or staying lit.
Continued for all vehicles
– Check operation of heater and air conditioning system.

 

[DXX]

No clutch on ours it runs continuously and has a variable pressure valve (That could be stuck)

If Loz is correct there is no clutch on the compressor. Check with the garage unless you get more information from the forum

 

[Niknak]

I’m no AC specialist but I believe the T6 AC compressor is permanently engaged (not clutched), if you run the engine you may damage the compressor if oil has been lost.
Maybe somebody here with T6 AC experience?

Yes constant compressor