Webasto Thermo & Comfort

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My Van has a sticker which says 'Webasto Thermo & Comfort' on the door pillar. I understand that this is something to do with pre-heating or rapidly heating the engine cooling circuit in cold weather. But can anyone explain (in simple terms) what / why VW installed this? I don't want to know how to upgrade it or control it or modify it - just what was the original intention and how can I tell that it is doing anything? There don't seem to be any controls in the Cab.

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@mmi have you got one of these?
Yes, but unlike the UK version, mine is with all the controls in the cabin.

But can anyone explain (in simple terms) what / why VW installed this?
Ok, first the smartarse answer - the basic van does not have the heater so it was a specifically ordered option to the van. It seems that most of the T6 in the UK do not have the option. Based on my collection of T6 configurations (VCDS configuration scans) well below 10% of the vans have the heater in the UK.

The second answer - the heater warms up the coolant entering cabin heat exchanger thus siginificantly expediting cabin warm up in cold temperatures (below +5C).

If interested to see the difference - remove fuse SC46 to disable the heater (T6 from November 2017 onwards).
 
So we saying it's automatic?

No user control?
 
Sweet... That makes sense.

How much the option.?
 
I just want to compliment.
Generally speaking AUX HEATER is installed by default on a passenger vehicle(particularly 7 seats or more -> when larger volume of air requires warm up in the cold weather).

Worth to mention is that once you have AUX HEATER onboard it is quite simple exercise to get it upgraded to a full PARKING HEATER with a programmable timer and remote controller.
 
Thanks folks. Weather colder now so will see if it works. Only had the van since August so not tested yet.
 
Good morning. I'm new to the forum. I have a 2016 T6 150cv. I installed the Webasto Thermo Evo Top heater. I want to upgrade to a parking heater with remote control and the ability to program it. Which kit do you recommend for the upgrade? Has anyone already done this type of upgrade? Thanks for any information. Greetings from little Slovenia

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Yes, but unlike the UK version, mine is with all the controls in the cabin.


Ok, first the smartarse answer - the basic van does not have the heater so it was a specifically ordered option to the van. It seems that most of the T6 in the UK do not have the option. Based on my collection of T6 configurations (VCDS configuration scans) well below 10% of the vans have the heater in the UK.

The second answer - the heater warms up the coolant entering cabin heat exchanger thus siginificantly expediting cabin warm up in cold temperatures (below +5C).

If interested to see the difference - remove fuse SC46 to disable the heater (T6 from November 2017 onwards).
So is it a given that if the sticker is present on the door then the Webasto is in there somewhere?
 
So is it a given that if the sticker is present on the door then the Webasto is in there somewhere?
Well, highly likely then but still not 100% guaranteed. Still better have a look under the van for the Webasto's exhaust pipe - see below

And without

Also a diagnostic scan would show if there actually is one onboard.
 
I just want to compliment.
Generally speaking AUX HEATER is installed by default on a passenger vehicle(particularly 7 seats or more -> when larger volume of air requires warm up in the cold weather).

Worth to mention is that once you have AUX HEATER onboard it is quite simple exercise to get it upgraded to a full PARKING HEATER with a programmable timer and remote controller.
How do I go about this upgrade?
 
Imagine my surprise....

...when I discovered a Webasto Top Evo lurking under my T6 that I previously had no idea was there (the Webasto, I mean, not the van)! This was despite having done loads of work on the van since I bought it a year ago. There's no dash-mounted controller, remote, or sticker on the door frame to give it away.

This has implications for my camper conversion plans, which include installing a Truma D4E (diesel/ electric) air/ water heater inside the van (already bought) and I'd really appreciate any comments/ responses to my questions, please.

A bit of background: It's a LWB high roof and the first owner was seriously disabled (first job I had to do was remove the wheelchair lift). I guess he specified the Webasto to ensure he'd be warm enough on cold mornings. I also discovered, when I stripped out the plastic panels in the rear, that there's a second heater at the back, with coolant pipes linking to it, but no aircon pipes that I can see.

I was all prepared to drop the tank to install the Truma's diesel pipe (I'd even obtained the new sender seal and tank mounting bolts), but now realise I might be able to plumb directly into the Webasto's diesel pipe, which ought to be a lot easier (a couple of contributors to this forum say it's OK to do this).

So, my questions:

1. I take it that using the same diesel pipe for both Truma and Webasto wouldn't present any technical problems? Insufficient fuel flow to run both, for instance? (Not that I can see this arising.)

2. Both systems appear to use pipes and hoses of roughly the same diameter, despite what I thought was implied in another forum thread. Anyone know if this is the case, and whether they need to be of a certain spec? As far as I can see, all I need is a simple 'T', some hose clamps and, maybe, an in-line filter.

3. I'd like to remove the bulky rear-mounted heater, which the Truma will make redundant, but to keep the Webasto in case I want to upgrade it for use as an engine pre-heater (the engine takes an eternity to warm up in cold weather). So, I need to isolate the coolant pipework that I want to retain (that links the Webasto to the front heater matrix) from the two pipes that currently carry coolant to the rear heater. Anyone know how best to achieve this? Are there standard/ non-branching pipes I can substitute for the existing ones, or should I simply sever the pipes and terminate them with stop ends/ plugs of some kind? I take it the Webasto will work OK, albeit a lot slower, with the front heater matrix only?

4. Can I just confirm that the Webasto, as normally set up, simply heats the cabin, and that it does this automatically, with no controller of any kind? Just seems a bit odd that you can't even switch it on/off, and that engine coolant isn't also heated.

5. Anything obvious I've overlooked?

Many thanks for taking the time to read this rather long posting! Photo of van in recently acquired L31 Dove Blue livery (available on VW vans 1950-67) attached, for interest.

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