T6.1 flywheel

Could it be a failed bearing in the gearbox? especially if it stops when the clutch is depressed (disengaging the gearbox) It could also explain why the rattle disappears after a few minutes once oil is circulating in the gearbox. No oil leaks from the gearbox?

No oil leaks atall and only 62k miles. It is a 5 speed though. Is there any other symptoms I could narrow things down with?? Basically just trying to revise over the weekend so I can stand better ground with mechanic next week so far the only suggestion has been starter motor
 
No oil leaks atall and only 62k miles. It is a 5 speed though. Is there any other symptoms I could narrow things down with?? Basically just trying to revise over the weekend so I can stand better ground with mechanic next week so far the only suggestion has been starter motor
Do you start the van with the clutch in or out? If you start it with the clutch depressed and all sounds good then it is more likely to be on the gearbox side.
You could check the gearbox oil level and condition of the oil, or even drain the oil and look for bits of metal.
 
Interesting, I have exactly the same noise on mine, seems more noticeable when cold. It's a 2021 with 5 speed box with just over 12000miles on the clock. We bought the van just under a year ago and it was doing it then @ around 8000 miles.It also has a high pitched whine in 5th starts around 60-65mph depending on load. A bit of digging found a few others with the same whine apparently turned out to be a bearing issue in the box. I initially thought my clatter noise was DMF but am now wondering if it is connected to the gearbox whine/bearing.
Fortunately we took out the extended warranty/service plan so hopefully will get them to look at this at the next service.
 
Do you start the van with the clutch in or out? If you start it with the clutch depressed and all sounds good then it is more likely to be on the gearbox side.
You could check the gearbox oil level and condition of the oil, or even drain the oil and look for bits of metal

It literally insists on having clutch pressed to start. I can pretty reliably get force the noise. Start van, sounds fine no noise even for a minute or 2 them i go down drive turn around get out van to put bin out and its the clanging away. Also if I leave it ticking over then put in hear and slowly release clutch abit with handbrake on to load engine that gets the noise going.
 
Interesting, I have exactly the same noise on mine, seems more noticeable when cold. It's a 2021 with 5 speed box with just over 12000miles on the clock. We bought the van just under a year ago and it was doing it then @ around 8000 miles.It also has a high pitched whine in 5th starts around 60-65mph depending on load. A bit of digging found a few others with the same whine apparently turned out to be a bearing issue in the box. I initially thought my clatter noise was DMF but am now wondering if it is connected to the gearbox whine/bearing.
Fortunately we took out the extended warranty/service plan so hopefully will get them to look at this at the next service.
Wish I had, think I actually let out snorts or derision when they offered me warrenty. Tit. No whine but sure ita grindy going into reverse, 1st is stupidly short and sometimes think 4th feels weird going down hill.
 
No crank pulley won be affected by the clutch, sounds like the aux’ belt and tensioner were overdue, again not affected by the clutch. Hopefully they checked the alternator clutch pulley freewheeling when renewing the belt, again this is not linked to the noise you’ve recorded.
The turbo blew out on my way home on Wednesday. Garage that did flywheel saying bad luck nothing to do with their work and wont do turbo as I cant afford genuine vw parts they insist of fitting ao had to abandon van with a turbo specialist....think im going to have to take your advice and bend over for webuyanycar 😭😭😭😭
 
Wow, you’re joking…….

Leyland Friday spesh.

I think I’d be writing a letter to VW head office, no way a 4 year old van with that mileage should be experiencing the issues you’ve had.
 
Wow, you’re joking…….

Leyland Friday spesh.

I think I’d be writing a letter to VW head office, no way a 4 year old van with that mileage should be experiencing the issues you’ve had.
Sadly not joking. Is that a done thing? I havent even contacted the dealer i got it from as over a year ago and hard enough dealing with them jist buying it. 62,000 miles its got. Just cant believe it. Cost £31,000 including vat spent ages deliberating about it as needed a vehicle im a gardener with a kid and dogs so it just ticked all the boxes ate an affordable chunk of my income to reduce tax bill i can never afford and hoped would have good resale value once bank loan repaid. Still owe £20,000. Webuyanycar offering 23k without looking at it. I scuffed the left side against a flint wall (wet mud track I hadnt accounted for extra weight compared to old van i was used to and slid back). Probably going to be a grand at least just to get it back on the road but still has this awful noise and basically wasted 2 grand trying to solve it. Garage got really shirty because I asked for evidence of 2nd flywheel they put in and they sent me pictures of the 2 invoices for fly wheels and some pictures of van in the air so they were pretty offended I accused them of pulling a fast ine but just wasnt sure what to do.
 
Wow, you’re joking…….

Leyland Friday spesh.

I think I’d be writing a letter to VW head office, no way a 4 year old van with that mileage should be experiencing the issues

Van gets worse. Turbo specialist has said its impossible to take the turbo off without dropping the engine and gearbox so going to cost double. Also basically forces me to get them to inspect the gearbox for this noise as no point paying to do it twice. Praying its going to be the input shaft baring or whatever so does need gear box doing. Hes said £2000+vat for turbo now bring it to over £5000 I've spent now if including the cost to hire van so I can keep working....all my jobs mysteriously have grass and weeds that are still growing at least.
 
Wow, you’re joking…….

Leyland Friday spesh.

I think I’d be writing a letter to VW head office, no way a 4 year old van with that mileage should be experiencing the issues you’ve had.
Just thought id update you. £1200 turned into £2500 as to replace the turbo the whole bloody engine had to come out. Garage was livid as me clearly didnt want the agro. Asked them to diagnose banging noise inspect gearbox and mechanic was adamant was the fly wheel still so they corresponded with original place i took for repair and they supplied A THIRD flywheel under warrenty. Finally picked van up today seems tp be running fine...will listen diligently in the morning see of.banging resolved. f***ing engine management light on yet again saying check adblue d.e.f.....got to go back to garage tomorrow suspect theyve pulled the same wore first garage did whem changed fly wheel.


Spoke to vw and they said they would have probably offered financial assistance IF my van had beem serviced by a vw approved dealer within the last 2 years but sadly it hasn't.
 
Aye, VW (and many others, to be fair) wont even consider a goodwill contribution outside of warranty if it doesn't have a full dealer history. Goodwill is a two way street, and if an owner hasn't shown them any...

Fingers crossed this is finally it for you and the adblue bit is an an easy sort.
 
Aye, VW (and many others, to be fair) wont even consider a goodwill contribution outside of warranty if it doesn't have a full dealer history. Goodwill is a two way street, and if an owner hasn't shown them any...

Fingers crossed this is finally it for you and the adblue bit is an an easy sort.
Sorry hadnt realised id sent previous message losing the plot. I wouldnt have even bothered asking them i just cant get over it 4 years and 60,000 miles serviced every year this kind of faults just seem like not fit for purpose. Might look into this motor vehicle ombudsman see if any help. No idea what to do with van now weather im selling a good van that owes me thousands or shedding a curse.
 
No harm in asking for sure. No harm in asking the ombudsman either, but dont pin your hopes on it.

Fingers crossed its straightened out now (or will be) and you can adtually enjoy it!
 
No harm in asking for sure. No harm in asking the ombudsman either, but dont pin your hopes on it.

Fingers crossed its straightened out now (or will be) and you can adtually enjoy it!
When will it end!!!

Picked van up yesterday stupidly didnt learn from my mistakes and handed over money before checking vehicle. Clutch wasnt bled properly so peddle sticks to the floor and engine management light on AGAIN saying check adblue. I presumed same issue as first garage to do fly wheel and wire pulled. No. "You'll have to leave ot with us" after telling me to pick the thing up and I've returned the hire van. Told me no adblue preassure so I need a new pump which is £600 without labour.
 
Hi, did their final repair actually get rid of that rattling sound? I have exactly the same noise coming from a 2023 5 speed manual that’s already had 2 DMF’s and a gearbox replaced under warranty only for the noise to still be present! 😡
 
Hi, did their final repair actually get rid of that rattling sound? I have exactly the same noise coming from a 2023 5 speed manual that’s already had 2 DMF’s and a gearbox replaced under warranty only for the noise to still be present! 😡
Hi. Thanks for asking. Actually quite depressed about the whole situation and so sorry to hear that as afraid were in the same boat.

Since my last post, that garage had to replace the slave cylinder (£330) and the adblue pump (£750) pretty sure both of these due to their incompetence but too late now.

About a month later I pestered customer care flat out and eventually took it to a bonefied VW garage. Oh yeah also one of my gearbox mounts randomly snapped haha. Vw messed me around for a month denying it made noise then blaming it on previous garages work and the fact I had non genuine vw flywheel (same f***ing factory just not their sticker on it). Anyway they dismantled the gearbox couldnt gind anything wrong, part backlogged from Germany so to save time they fitted a brand new gearbox which a whole song amd dance about them not charging me for the 22 hours labour at £150ph. Anyway im now another £3300 out of pocket for a new gearbox and....you guessed it! Still makes the f***ing banging noise!!!! Tried refusing to pay they claim now "its a characteristic of the gearbox" why not f***ing say that before charging me then!!! Grand total of £9000 I've blown on this c*** of a van now I actually detest it mate come so close to setting it on fire haha.

There's no way its normal "characteristic" its metal banging metal, when its making the noise it shakes the whole van I feel it in my feet. Wankers vw obviously didnt give me a penny towards it "at such high mileage"....66566 miles now, egr valve will probably go when I get to 66666. As if they'd be able to sell a van making that noise from new.

How long have you had your van? Is it from new, has it always made the sound? Worth keeping in touch as im sure its not right just feel so marooned with it at the moment.
 
Aftermarket items from an OE manufacturer aren't always identical to the originals. You can't take it as read that just because Sachs(?) made it that it will be to the same spec as the ones they supply to VW.

Although clearly you've something bad going wrong there :(
 
Aftermarket items from an OE manufacturer aren't always identical to the originals. You can't take it as read that just because Sachs(?) made it that it will be to the same spec as the ones they supply to VW.

Although clearly you've something bad going wrong there :(
Its LUK flywheel I've used the vw technician explained that its the same to me just doesnt get the additional vigorous vw testing to earn the additional £600 or whatever it is so they can put their stamp on. Regardless or brand anyway the measured mine (as brand new when turbo replaced) and its all within vw spec and tolerance they just wanted a get out of jail card as if they didnt have enough to choose from.
 
They already have a get out of jail free card when someone else has been in there first. Theyre not beholden to you for anything,

So what is VWs spec and tolerance for the DMF, and what did they measure it with? Would be handy to know for those looking for an aftermarket one.
 
They already have a get out of jail free card when someone else has been in there first. Theyre not beholden to you for anything,

So what is VWs spec and tolerance for the DMF, and what did they measure it with? Would be handy to know for those looking for an aftermarket one.
No shit, do you work for them lol? I didnt buy it from vw. I serviced it myself. Took it to an accredited vw independent not acknowledged by vw atall, had another independent take whole f***ing engine out to replace Turbo because I couldnt afford new vw one. Fact still remains my van has their badge on it and it cost me 31k with less than 50,000 miles and its shit! The turbo shouldn't have failed and the gearbox isn't a serviceable item neither is the flywheel. Its a joke. I dont know details just said it was within tolerances directional play and looked brand new.
 
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