(Side Assist) / (Blind Spot Detection & Rear Cross Traffic Alert) retrofit
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Is there actual VW part number?The Plug for the Led is a Molex MX-52117-0341
It is a shame that I have completely forgotten to note them during installation.
I have managed to preform 35km long trip on a motorway today.
(I have a letter stating that I am an essential worker
My 5Q0 SIDE ASSIST(BLIND SPOT) aspect of the system already works 100%.
Actually it works practically the same way as 7E0 system.
The only difference is the following:
- system start up(mirror LEDs glow up very slowly and gradually
- extra menu in IC(Assist systems) for mirror LED brightness doesn't exits with 5Q0 units (credit to @mmi for cross checking this with MQB platform vehicles). This adjustment on my old 7E0 system was useless anyway as I always kept it at max brightness and all other settings were too dark in my opinion.
Edit:
Obviously both 7E0 & 5Q0 systems adjust mirror LEDs brightness automatically via RLS sensor.
There is also one more difference (a very important one
):7E0 - lane change assist operates from 60 km/h to maximum speed and deactivates if the speed falls below 50 km/h
5Q0 - lane change assist operates from 10 km/h to maximum speed and deactivates if the speed falls below 5 km/h
This gives 5Q0 huge practical advantage over 7E0 cause it works virtually in all traffic circumstances
While 7E0 is orientated mostly for motorway and carriageway use(roads with higher speed limits).
In the meanwhile ---> Wing mirror covers
RTA system operates when reversing gear is engaged, brake pedal is not depressed
and "negative" speed of RTA equipped vehicle is within (1-7.5) mph = (1-12) km/h.
The speed of "rear crossing" vehicle must be greater that 2.5 mph = 4 km/h.
YELLOW zone is the area where time to possible collision is within (1.5 sec. to 2.5 sec.)
RED zone is the area where time to possible collision is within (0.5 sec. to 1.5 sec.)
BROWN zone is the area where time to possible collision is below 0.5 sec.
And again huge credit to @mmi for his involvement and collaboration.
and "negative" speed of RTA equipped vehicle is within (1-7.5) mph = (1-12) km/h.
The speed of "rear crossing" vehicle must be greater that 2.5 mph = 4 km/h.
YELLOW zone is the area where time to possible collision is within (1.5 sec. to 2.5 sec.)
RED zone is the area where time to possible collision is within (0.5 sec. to 1.5 sec.)
BROWN zone is the area where time to possible collision is below 0.5 sec.
And again huge credit to @mmi for his involvement and collaboration
.I guess we need to change ABS sensors on wheels... T6 ABS sensors are not directional i think...
RTA system operates when reversing gear is engaged, brake pedal is not depressed
and "negative" speed of RTA equipped vehicle is within (1-7.5) mph = (1-12) km/h.
The speed of "rear crossing" vehicle must be greater that 2.5 mph = 4 km/h.
View attachment 66700
YELLOW zone is the area where time to possible collision is within (1.5 sec. to 2.5 sec.)
RED zone is the area where time to possible collision is within (0.5 sec. to 1.5 sec.)
BROWN zone is the area where time to possible collision is below 0.5 sec.
And again huge credit to @mmi for his involvement and collaboration
I am not a 100% sure of that aspect yet.
I am getting concentrated on the warning element first and it appears that PDC will need to be upgraded to a MQB/PQ35 unit.
If we need this, than i have the ABS Coding and the Sensors for it.
We only have to look to the Caddy, but Caddy did use this only for the PLA, i thought.
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The RTA do break the car if the driver fail to do so... ABS need to code to do that... Like Robert picture show its not active...
Correct
What picture are you referring to?
Side Assist - To Retrofit Or Not To Retrofit
Should I show here my new radars(5Q0) adopted and attached to my OEM T6 brackets(7E0):whistle: ? Wouldn't it be easier to install them externally - would work also for barn doors :whistle:?
Discover Media on T6 is a PQ35 unit which makes it 100% compatible with 5Q0 radars(they can be configured to operate as PQ35).
( credit to @mmi for supplying the screenshot
)But to display the actual visual RTA warning, the PDC unit has to be upgraded.
There are 2 choices:
1. 1K8 919 472 C
PROS: straight fit with adapter
Or repining
CONS: much more expensive
2. 5Q0 919 294 K
PROS: much cheaper
CONS: requires reflashing with 1K8 919 472 C firmware
EDIT:
Obviously same loom and same repining as above applies
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Lucky you, I had to pay EUR 34.31 plus postage
I didn't get a chance to verify this myself (yet) but apparently there are few side effects of this upgrade.Discover Media in T6 is a PQ35 unit which makes it 100% compatible with 5Q0 radars(they can be configured to operate as PQ35).
View attachment 66967
( credit to @mmi for supplying the screenshot
But to display the actual visual RTA warning, the PDC unit has to be upgraded.
There are 2 choices:
1. 1K8 919 472 C
PROS: straight fit with adapter
View attachment 66974
Or repining
View attachment 66975
CONS: much more expensive
2. 5Q0 919 294 K
PROS: much cheaper
CONS: requires reflashing with 1K8 919 472 C firmware
EDIT:
Obviously same loom and same repining as above applies
1. Automatic activation of PCD system, by simple approach to obstruction at low speed.
2. Dynamic guide lines, driven by steering wheel movements.
3. Non OEM front camera activation on DM via PDC OEM console switch.
Have you done the other end yet?