Cloned UK Number Plates
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The government are also proposing penalty points for drivers caught on the road with non compliant plates (6 points and up to £1000 stab in the wallet is what they're planning on introducing, with powers for vehicle seizure and disqualification if its deemed there was an attempt to evade ANPR etc), so it hardly seems worth the risk any more. Real draconian stuff. Swapping them about at MOT time won't save you.
I've got legally sized, spaced, correct font BS marked , reflective , pressed plates on at the mo which passed the last few mot's so will keep these on unless its flagged .
But haven’t got time for a fail so will take others aswell to cover my ass and keep the tester happy .
But haven’t got time for a fail so will take others aswell to cover my ass and keep the tester happy .
Good. They look shit.
And harder to clean.
The current MOT gives only gives number plates the most cursory of checks, so passing an MOT is in no way an indicator of their legality. That will change with Mr MOT checking the plates full spec against regs.
The problem you'll have under the new regs is that if its flagged by the police you'll get a finaincial kick in the nuts, 6 points, then a further butt reaming from your insurers.
Currently pressed plates are not legal anyway, but I've never known a fellow copper raise an eyebrow. The current regs are clear that plates must me manufactured from an inherently reflective material, whereas the pressed plates are made from aluminium which is not reflective and then the reflective bit applied after. They abide with the spirit of the law for sure, but not the actual letter of it, and that ambiguity is going to be erased.
Personally I never saw the point of anything other than ordinary plates. People fit them to attract attention, then complain when it attracts more attention than they had desired.
Hold on. Plastic is not inherently reflective either. Current plates are made by sticking the numbers on a reflective sheet that is then stuck to the plastic. How is this different than sticking reflective material to pressed metal?
Same here
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Im fully legal , and fully compliant with the tax laws lol.
However, put these plates on if you want to and don't sweat it.
If you can illegally invade a country and kidnap its leader and nothing is said ,,,,, why worry if your number plate has a reflective cover to its aluminium body or not.
My mantra remains,,,,,,
Fuk em all, es
However, put these plates on if you want to and don't sweat it.
If you can illegally invade a country and kidnap its leader and nothing is said ,,,,, why worry if your number plate has a reflective cover to its aluminium body or not.
My mantra remains,,,,,,
Fuk em all, es
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Someone with a vested financial interest claiming their product is kosher, eh? Now theres a thing!
Out of curiosity I've just logged on to CAVIS to bring myself completely up to date.
I retired in in 2020 when BA AU 145e was current. Pressed plates were not legal (black historic plates aside) because aluminium is not retrorefleftive. Even painting or sticking a reflective material on the top didnt alter the fact that the plate was manufactured from a non refleftive substrate.
Hence my comment about them complying with the spirit of the law (font size, refleftive background, colour, etc) but not the strict letter simply because of the material. As aforementioned, it wasn't really taking then piss so I never stuck anyone on for an otherwise correctly sized, correctly fonted, pressed plate.
However, 145e was updated slightly in 2021.
The material from which it was made no longer matters (hurrah for aluminium!) provided the finished product was the correct colour and reflexcivity etc. Excellent, so a pressed plate can theoretically now be legal.
But, and its a big but, the update reg now introduces flexibility requirements for plate materials. The test involves clamping one end of the plate and applying a 3kg weight to the other end. The plate must return to within 25mm of its original dimensions, without visible damage (cracking, delamination, etc), to pass. Testing shows standard 1.2mm pressed plates do not pass, so unless an alloy plate is nice and thick it won't be legal. So for sensible purposes, that website is incorrect.
Pop round and we can put your plates in the soft jaws on the workbench, Pop on 3kg at the other end, and see how they do. I cant see why you think yours might be any different to any other 1.2mm plate.
But even if you have a really thick and robust pressed plate, any kind of raised lettering is going to be outlawed under the new regs anyway, whether theyre made from gold, granite or depleted uranium. They were never my thing but I never had a downer on them, but then government certainly does and you'll be risking significant penalties when our lizard overlords get it on the statute books.
Out of curiosity I've just logged on to CAVIS to bring myself completely up to date.
I retired in in 2020 when BA AU 145e was current. Pressed plates were not legal (black historic plates aside) because aluminium is not retrorefleftive. Even painting or sticking a reflective material on the top didnt alter the fact that the plate was manufactured from a non refleftive substrate.
Hence my comment about them complying with the spirit of the law (font size, refleftive background, colour, etc) but not the strict letter simply because of the material. As aforementioned, it wasn't really taking then piss so I never stuck anyone on for an otherwise correctly sized, correctly fonted, pressed plate.
However, 145e was updated slightly in 2021.
The material from which it was made no longer matters (hurrah for aluminium!) provided the finished product was the correct colour and reflexcivity etc. Excellent, so a pressed plate can theoretically now be legal.
But, and its a big but, the update reg now introduces flexibility requirements for plate materials. The test involves clamping one end of the plate and applying a 3kg weight to the other end. The plate must return to within 25mm of its original dimensions, without visible damage (cracking, delamination, etc), to pass. Testing shows standard 1.2mm pressed plates do not pass, so unless an alloy plate is nice and thick it won't be legal. So for sensible purposes, that website is incorrect.
Pop round and we can put your plates in the soft jaws on the workbench, Pop on 3kg at the other end, and see how they do. I cant see why you think yours might be any different to any other 1.2mm plate.
But even if you have a really thick and robust pressed plate, any kind of raised lettering is going to be outlawed under the new regs anyway, whether theyre made from gold, granite or depleted uranium. They were never my thing but I never had a downer on them, but then government certainly does and you'll be risking significant penalties when our lizard overlords get it on the statute books.
Keep up the sterling work
When is this coming in?
Dunno but my daughter just got home from work and you wouldn't know if she'd got number plates or not, never mind if they meet BS requirements.
Gotta love the countryside in winter!
They were clean when she left here this morning.
You're all adults, many of you have "adult" offspring, I don't need to spell out why I know her plates were clean this morning!
(and her lights were all clean)
Do you ever stop caring for them?
The other two have their own houses and husbands but who do you think looks after their cars?
You smell like a copper
Or an ex copper
Or a bored failed ex councillors etc
Or even a number plate manufacture,
Or a gardener
I don't know lol
But don't burst a vessel next time you notice a number plate that hasn't quite made the lawful speciactions of the fully reflective material.
Like , who cares ???
You smell like a copper
Or an ex copper
Or a bored failed ex councillors etc
Or even a number plate manufacture,
Or a gardener
I don't know lol
But don't burst a vessel next time you notice a number plate that hasn't quite made the lawful speciactions of the fully reflective material
You lost any argument you might have had with your first sentence.
Idont know lol , sasquatch tells me he's an ex copper lol , I'm ad libbing.
Im Just thinking about the time he mentioned a rapist putting his bell end into a letter box and getting it chopped off etc. And now he's the number plate police.
Sometimes when you retire, you really need to retire
Now wondering if all old but otherwise satisfactory number plates without BS and maker info will be MOT failures under the new rules. And if so, should I start a small operation making legal number plates as it sounds like it will be a growth industry!
Maybe you should only be able to get an MOT if you have insurance and tax.
Maybe you should only be able to get an MOT if you have insurance and tax.
Ah, that's the joy of the internet!
