@Dellmassive. Without me adding all the items up can you remember what your box cost in comparison please. Interesting to see any price differences although I guess your box has loads of extra monitoring equipment ?
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Fitting a leisure battery is actually quite easy, just takes time running the cables. You can get a complete kit with cables to make life easier. I managed without any problems so cant be too hard
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I’m going to buy a fold out solar solution, up to 200w.
The goal with the van is to be able to be off grid, but the portable fridge is pretty much the only drain on energy.
The goal with the van is to be able to be off grid, but the portable fridge is pretty much the only drain on energy.
thats kinda subjective, as you say I've added loads of monitoring . . .
so really it can be as simple as,
Battery,
Box,
Fuse,
connector,
then start building in the bits you want.
@VanDamMan has just bought a made up box similar to the Bison Box . . .
where you just add in a battery to get started . . . . .
heres a couple of examples . . .
Trolling Motor Battery Power Box, 12V 30Amp Output, USB and Lighter socket : Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors
Trolling Motor Battery Power Box, 12V 30Amp Output, USB and Lighter socket : Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors
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Akozon Battery Box Fittings Plastic Minnkota Trolling Motor Power Center Station USB 12V Charger Port : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
Akozon Battery Box Fittings Plastic Minnkota Trolling Motor Power Center Station USB 12V Charger Port : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive
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@Dellmassive. What's the best way to charge the Allpowers when it's in the van. Ie charging from the leisure battery or van 12v power from the alternator when driving. Also not when on EHU, Solar would be charging my main leisure battery when on site so how would I charge to Allpowers at the same time, assuming there is enough sun for both.
Hope that makes sense.
Hope that makes sense.
@Blitz
I've found the 12v plug in USB Type-C PD the best way to charge from a 12v system>> (plus a 100w USB cable)
whether you plug it into the vans socket and charge from alternator . . .
or plug in into your 12v leisure battery side it dont matter it works either way.
so:
alternator > 12v dash socket > ALLPOWERS
or
solar/DC-DC/EHU > leisure battery > 12v dash socket > ALLPOWERS
a nice simple solution that works anywhere.
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this is what i used . . .
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with a USB-C PD cable capable of delivering the 60w
like this . . .
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or this . . .
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you can of course use solar direct into the side - 50W so its slower.
or
you can use the 12v to DC5525 input on the side, but again its 50W max, so slower.
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this is it in action at T6F summer camp . . . . .
(solar > battery box > 12v socket > ALLPOWERS)
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the important things are.
the USB charger needs to be Type-C PD can capable of 60W+ (some are only 18w or 45w = slow charge)
the USB lead also needs to be USB-C PD spec capable of 60W + (normally rated at 100W)
also a FYI, when its chargeing at 60W the charger plug will get warm, so if its leisure then the socket + feed cable needs to be up to scratch.
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Job Done
I've found the 12v plug in USB Type-C PD the best way to charge from a 12v system>> (plus a 100w USB cable)
whether you plug it into the vans socket and charge from alternator . . .
or plug in into your 12v leisure battery side it dont matter it works either way.
so:
alternator > 12v dash socket > ALLPOWERS
or
solar/DC-DC/EHU > leisure battery > 12v dash socket > ALLPOWERS
a nice simple solution that works anywhere.
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this is what i used . . .
LinkOn 63W Car Charger With 45W USB-C PD3.0 PPS and 18W USB-A QC3.0 for MacBook Pro Chromebook iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8 iPad Pro/Air 2/Mini, Samsung Galaxy S9/S10/S20 Pixel Nexus Huawei: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy LinkOn 63W Car Charger With 45W USB-C PD3.0 PPS and 18W USB-A QC3.0 for MacBook Pro Chromebook iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8 iPad Pro/Air 2/Mini, Samsung Galaxy S9/S10/S20 Pixel Nexus Huawei at Amazon UK.
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KiWiBiRD 63W Fast USB C Car Charger, Type C PD 3.0 45W: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy KiWiBiRD 63W Fast USB C Car Charger, Type C PD 3.0 45W Power Delivery USB-A QC 3.0 18W Quick Charge for MacBook Air, iPad Pro 2018/2020, iPhone 11 Pro, Galaxy S10/Note 10, Pixel 3a/4, HP DELL Laptops at Amazon UK.
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with a USB-C PD cable capable of delivering the 60w
like this . . .
UGREEN USB C to USB C Cable 100W PD Type C Fast Charger Data Power Lead Compatible with Thunderbolt MacBook Pro Air,iPad Pro 2020,Samsung S20 S10,Huawei P30,Dell,Lenovo ThinkPad,HP,Asus Chromebook,1M: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy UGREEN USB C to USB C Cable 100W PD Type C Fast Charger Data Power Lead Compatible with Thunderbolt MacBook Pro Air, iPad Pro 2020, Samsung S20 S10, Huawei P30, Dell, Lenovo ThinkPad, HP, Asus Chromebook, 1M at Amazon UK.
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or this . . .
USB C to USB C Cable 2M,NIMASO USB Type C 100W 20V: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy USB C to USB C Cable 2M, NIMASO USB Type C 100W 20V/5A PD Fast Charging Data Cable Lead with E-Mark Chip for MacBook, iPad Pro 2018/2020, MacBook Air, ChromeBook Pixel, Galaxy S20/S20 Ultra/S10/S8/Note10 at Amazon UK.
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you can of course use solar direct into the side - 50W so its slower.
or
you can use the 12v to DC5525 input on the side, but again its 50W max, so slower.
************
this is it in action at T6F summer camp . . . . .
(solar > battery box > 12v socket > ALLPOWERS)
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the important things are.
the USB charger needs to be Type-C PD can capable of 60W+ (some are only 18w or 45w = slow charge)
the USB lead also needs to be USB-C PD spec capable of 60W + (normally rated at 100W)
also a FYI, when its chargeing at 60W the charger plug will get warm, so if its leisure then the socket + feed cable needs to be up to scratch.
.
Job Done
check this out . . .
on a 45W version i had before the 60W version . .
i charges as fast as the fast 60w wall charger
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www.t6forum.com
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on a 45W version i had before the 60W version . .
i charges as fast as the fast 60w wall charger
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12v Lithium Leisure Battery Box 138Ah 1766Wh -- How I Done It --
12v Lithium Leisure Battery Box 138Ah 1766Wh -- How I Done It -- It's about time that I got this long-overdue project sorted out. The missing parts are on order and completion is in sight . . . . . . . . ready for the Post Pandemic 2020 Camping Trips (Hopefully) This is where it started. p1...
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ALLPOWERS in action . . .
providing temp 240vac power to a Access control system while installing & testing.
previously i used the NOCO jump pack and a small inverter . . . . this is much easier to manage.
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providing temp 240vac power to a Access control system while installing & testing.
previously i used the NOCO jump pack and a small inverter . . . . this is much easier to manage.
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Next step is going to have to be a carry / storage bag . . . . .
watch this space.
the ALLPOWERS measures . .
220 x 180 x 120 mm
so I've gone for one of each of these . . . ( i have 2x ALLPOWERS )
ill test them and see whats best . . .
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watch this space.
the ALLPOWERS measures . .
220 x 180 x 120 mm
so I've gone for one of each of these . . . ( i have 2x ALLPOWERS )
ill test them and see whats best . . .
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BW & H DSLR Black Camera Shoulder & Carry Case Bag for Nikon D7100 D3000 D300S D3100 D3200 D7200 – Black: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
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AmazonBasics - Large shoulder bag for SLR camera and: Amazon.co.uk: Camera & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy AmazonBasics - Large shoulder bag for SLR camera and accessories, Black with orange interior at Amazon UK.
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Just seen this,
ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
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Awesome . . .
i was waiting for the big 1000w one . . .
but looks like they doing the mid sized one too.
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i was waiting for the big 1000w one . . .
but looks like they doing the mid sized one too.
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ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter, Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor.
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the bags are in . . . .
lets take a look.
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BW & H DSLR Black Camera Shoulder & Carry Case Bag for: Amazon.co.uk: Camera & Photo
Shop BW & H DSLR Black Camera Shoulder & Carry Case Bag for Nikon D7100 D3000 D300S D3100 D3200 D7200 – Black. Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
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this one is a nice snug it with no space around the battery box.
there are two pockets on the side under the flap and a pocket each end . . .
lets take a look.
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BW & H DSLR Black Camera Shoulder & Carry Case Bag for: Amazon.co.uk: Camera & Photo
Shop BW & H DSLR Black Camera Shoulder & Carry Case Bag for Nikon D7100 D3000 D300S D3100 D3200 D7200 – Black. Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
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this one is a nice snug it with no space around the battery box.
there are two pockets on the side under the flap and a pocket each end . . .
next up is the Amazon Basics version . .
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a good bag and good build quality as always from Amazon.
this time a larger bag with numerous pockets and places to stash you bits . .
theirs more room in the main compartment too . .
and like the other bag it comes with Velcro dividers that you can place where you like . . .
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a good bag and good build quality as always from Amazon.
this time a larger bag with numerous pockets and places to stash you bits . .
theirs more room in the main compartment too . .
and like the other bag it comes with Velcro dividers that you can place where you like . . .
thank you @czmate1999 for bringing this to our attention . .
a bigger version of the 372wh unit . . .
this time 666wh
ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor
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ALLPOWERS High Capacity Generator Meets All your Needs Boasting a remarkable 666 watt-hours of energy, using only premium components and the most advanced power management technology, ALLPOWERS solar generator packs enough power to fully charge your personal electronic devices, household electronics and appliances, jumping start your cars, powering up your tools, and helping you keep lights on for emergency use, charging your laptops, cell phones. It’s great to take in your RV, campsites, fishing, hunting, farm or the job sites. Specification: Battery Capacity: 185000mAh/666Wh Rated Power: 500W Output Waveform: Pure Sine Wave Size/Weight:26.3*14*18cm/10.4*5.5*7inch 5kg/11Ib Protection Circuit: Short circuit, over current, over power, over charge, over-temperature, ect Net Weight: 5kg Input: AC：Voltage100-240V to 20V Current5.0A(at Max.）Please do use the adapter included with the unit,never use an extra or different one. DC：12-30V 10A(max). Output: AC:2*US/JP 110V 500W or EU/UK 220V 500W(surge power 1000W) DC:12V Output:12V5A(5.5*2.5mm)*2 12V Car Port:12-13.6V10A 2*USB：5V3A,9V2A,12V1.5A 1*USB:5V3A 1*USB-C: 5V/3A,9V/3A,12V/3A,15V/3A(PD 2-way,60W/100W Note: When the energy storage is working, the fan will accour a certain sound when it dissipates heat, just like our computer, which is normal Storage and Downtime Maintenance: 1.It is suggested to fully charge it at least once every 90 days for maintaining the best performance, reliability, and longevity. 2.If outputting is done, please remember to turn off the master to save the loss of energy. 3.Due to the chemical characteristics of the battery, the available capacity of the battery may somewhat vary from environment to environment such as cold weather or overheating (you may hear a cooling fan). So please always use it in room temperature (0°C- 40°C）also it is not recommended for outside storage or in damp environments. 4.If you are living off-grid in sub-zero conditions, we recommend you keep your unit in an insulated cooler and connect to a power source(solar panels). The natural heat generated will keep battery capacity at its highest. 5.The battery packs inside are non-removable, nondisassemble, the life-cycle for charge and discharge is over 500 times, but eventually, it will wear out. 6.Continuously discharging the battery to 0% and then storing it with an empty battery may reduce its serviceable life. It is recommended to always leave at least 20% capacity unused. Package 1 Contents: 1x ALLPOWERS portable generator 1x Adapter charger 1x User Manual
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a bigger version of the 372wh unit . . .
this time 666wh
ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
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ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor
- ❤Ship from UK local store，generally you will get it in 3-7 days！❤ ▶ 666Wh/185200mAh Huge Capacity: ALLPOWERS portable generator is possibly the smallest and lightest power station on the market. A high-density lithium-ion battery allows for a more compact build than that of lead-acid power packs. Works quietly without raising your voice or feeling disrupted, widely used for indoor or outdoor such as family, office, travel, camping, fishing, hunting, farm or the job sites.
- ▶ 5-in-1 Charging and 3-in-1 Recharging : Off-grid power station for camping or emergency backup, capable of powering lamp, phones, laptop, TV and even mini fridges( Not recommend to CPAP used). ALLPOWERS powerhourse boasts five output modes: a 12V cigarette lighter socket, two 12V/15A DC output, 3 fast-charging USB ports, one Type-C output and two AC sockets. Can be recharged by Solar Panel/ Wall Outlet/Car
- ▶ Bluetooth Connection: Aipower App supports iOS 9.0 or above /Android 4.3 or above. Ultimate wireless stability, with Bluetooth technology that connects your devices in a wink. Start easily and reliably
- ▶ Pure Sine Wave: Operates even the most sensitive electronics, it’s better than modified sine wave, with Intelligent CPU control mode, key switch output, LED display, short circuit and surge protection
- ▶ Safety Graranteed: Battery Management System (BMS) undertakes voltage control, temperature control and more advanced safety operations, ensuring complete protection for you and your devices; and it hazes Zero emissions, therefore does no harm to personal health, nor to the nature
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ALLPOWERS High Capacity Generator Meets All your Needs Boasting a remarkable 666 watt-hours of energy, using only premium components and the most advanced power management technology, ALLPOWERS solar generator packs enough power to fully charge your personal electronic devices, household electronics and appliances, jumping start your cars, powering up your tools, and helping you keep lights on for emergency use, charging your laptops, cell phones. It’s great to take in your RV, campsites, fishing, hunting, farm or the job sites. Specification: Battery Capacity: 185000mAh/666Wh Rated Power: 500W Output Waveform: Pure Sine Wave Size/Weight:26.3*14*18cm/10.4*5.5*7inch 5kg/11Ib Protection Circuit: Short circuit, over current, over power, over charge, over-temperature, ect Net Weight: 5kg Input: AC：Voltage100-240V to 20V Current5.0A(at Max.）Please do use the adapter included with the unit,never use an extra or different one. DC：12-30V 10A(max). Output: AC:2*US/JP 110V 500W or EU/UK 220V 500W(surge power 1000W) DC:12V Output:12V5A(5.5*2.5mm)*2 12V Car Port:12-13.6V10A 2*USB：5V3A,9V2A,12V1.5A 1*USB:5V3A 1*USB-C: 5V/3A,9V/3A,12V/3A,15V/3A(PD 2-way,60W/100W Note: When the energy storage is working, the fan will accour a certain sound when it dissipates heat, just like our computer, which is normal Storage and Downtime Maintenance: 1.It is suggested to fully charge it at least once every 90 days for maintaining the best performance, reliability, and longevity. 2.If outputting is done, please remember to turn off the master to save the loss of energy. 3.Due to the chemical characteristics of the battery, the available capacity of the battery may somewhat vary from environment to environment such as cold weather or overheating (you may hear a cooling fan). So please always use it in room temperature (0°C- 40°C）also it is not recommended for outside storage or in damp environments. 4.If you are living off-grid in sub-zero conditions, we recommend you keep your unit in an insulated cooler and connect to a power source(solar panels). The natural heat generated will keep battery capacity at its highest. 5.The battery packs inside are non-removable, nondisassemble, the life-cycle for charge and discharge is over 500 times, but eventually, it will wear out. 6.Continuously discharging the battery to 0% and then storing it with an empty battery may reduce its serviceable life. It is recommended to always leave at least 20% capacity unused. Package 1 Contents: 1x ALLPOWERS portable generator 1x Adapter charger 1x User Manual
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- Brand Name: ALLPOWERS
- Battery Type: Lithium Ion Battery
- Features: Support Quick Charging
- Features: with Flashlight
- Features: Built in Cables
- Features: Digital Display
- Features: Charger & Battery in 1
- Features: wireless charging
- Output Interface: Type C
- Output Interface: Triple USB
- Output Interface: DC
- Output Interface: Wireless
- Battery Capacity: Above 100000mAh
- Charging Devices: for Laptop
- Charging Devices: for Tablet
- Charging Devices: for Drones
- Charging Devices: for Camera
- Charging Devices: for Smartphone
- Input Interface: Micro Usb
- Shell Material: Silicon
- Type: Portable Power Bank
- Weight: 5000g
- Size: 26.3*14*18cm
- Support Quick Charge Technology: One-way Quick Charge
- Supports Solar Energy: No
- Quality Certification: ce
- Quality Certification: ROHS
- Quality Certification: PSE
- Quality Certification: FCC
- Is LED Lamp Illumination: Yes
- Colour: Gray match black
- Application: home/outside/camping/traveling
- Model Number: AP-SS-007-BLA
- Controller Type: MPPT
- Load Power: 500W
- Output Frequency: 50Hz/60Hz
- Place of Origin: Guangdong China
- Output Voltage: 110V/220V
- Work Time: 666Wh*0.85/your device power
- Solar Charger Input: 12-30V 10A,150W
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Yes, I've shown that cable above.
But its not the fastest or most efficient charge method.
You did indeed, sorry, I missed that
Do you know what current/power the accessory socket is limited to? I only have one in my (comfort) dash, feels like it charges my phone slow but then seemed to charge the Noco more quickly than I expected. I'm assuming it's not a smart socket in any way so must be current limited and my USB adaptor, despite it being a Belkin branded 2.1A one, isn't very good
Another linked question, when driving, is there any risk of taking current out of the van via the accessory socket more quickly than the van tops it up? Presumably the socket is supplied by the battery as it's always on and the van has a smart alternator, but can the alternator then dump a load of charge into the battery as appropriate to keep the battery happy?
Do you know what current/power the accessory socket is limited to? I only have one in my (comfort) dash, feels like it charges my phone slow but then seemed to charge the Noco more quickly than I expected. I'm assuming it's not a smart socket in any way so must be current limited and my USB adaptor, despite it being a Belkin branded 2.1A one, isn't very good
Another linked question, when driving, is there any risk of taking current out of the van via the accessory socket more quickly than the van tops it up? Presumably the socket is supplied by the battery as it's always on and the van has a smart alternator, but can the alternator then dump a load of charge into the battery as appropriate to keep the battery happy?
12v sockets are around 10A or 150w max.
And fused at 15A.
They direct from battery so could run a battery flat if the engine wasn't started before the battery dropped too low.
And fused at 15A.
They direct from battery so could run a battery flat if the engine wasn't started before the battery dropped too low.
Hold on old boy, I asked this question last week and never got a reply
Apart from 12v socket how else could you quick charge in the van, old chap.
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