Sold van with faulty EGR… what would you do!?
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We could debate this all day and there’s no right and wrong, it’s just an individual choice. The prob with VW is that they don’t seem to scan anything for faults unless you specifically want to pay them. I find it bizarre that you take your van for a service and they don’t do a diagnostic. It should be the first thing they do.
I can imagine they get a van in, do (or probably don’t do) their 80 point check or however many alleged things they check, then fire it straight out to be sold.
Undoubtedly this fault would have occurred loads of times before it throws an EML, but they don’t want to find things. I guess if it comes back as warranty then VW big brother pays. Maybe there’s a cost saving to them by not checking? Who knows?
But I don’t think many traders are as conscientious as we all would like them to be, so you pays your money and takes your choice as the saying goes.
Perhaps VWVC are a better bet in terms of manufacturer backed warranty?
Anyway, can’t you tell I’ve finished glossing the hallway lol.
I didn't do a good job of making this clear - but the van was bought from a used van place (which I helpfully called a dealership) and not a VW dealership.
It was offered with a six month warranty - but looking at the fine print there is no cover for DPF, EGR, AdBlue...
I believe that the offer of a DPF regen to "fix" the issue is a guise to get me to have demonstrated 'acceptance' of the van.
In that case I’m with @Sasquatch because the flush will be a short term solution (pardon the pun) and you’ll drop a £1500 bill soon.
The only way I’d keep it is if they put a new egr on it.
The issue here is that dealers, including franchises, knowingly send vehicles out the door with faults in the hope that the warranty picks up the cost further down the line instead of the dealer having to pay to rectify it themselves prior to sale.
Occam's Razor tells us that was almost certainly the case here.
Criminal 
Please show me the prosecution stats for egr removal?
Some people. Bet you've never once gone 1mph over the limit.
Please show me the prosecution stats for egr removal?
Some people. Bet you've never once gone 1mph over the limit.
I wouldn't have considered 125,000 to be high mileage.... I had thought that the Transporters were known for getting up toward 300,000.
Are the newer ones not considered likely to get anywhere close?
And...?
As for any prosecution stats you could look it up if you wanted to know.Criminal
Please show me the prosecution stats for egr removal?
Some people. Bet you've never once gone 1mph over the limit.
However, even if there have been none doesn’t mean there won’t be any going forward.
Seems quite likely that with these deletions happening more and more it will become something that gets checked out and maybe prosecutions made - that’s generally the way of it law breaking vs enforcement. Dare say it will start with MOT testers being penalised rather than drivers and that leading to more failures… MOT testers are supposed to visually check these parts and if they are missing or clearly modified the vehicle fails.
And I can see the insurance companies eyeing this as a way to save money - making your vehicle no longer road legal means you no longer have cover (and you will struggle to do so going forward). To insurers that’s great as they don’t need to pay out if you have an issue. Same for any future warranty work. And if you can then get a company to insure you going forward they can rinse you for huge profit. It is all a big win for them.
All vehicles have parts that suffer wear and tear and need replacement in time. The EGR and DPF are in that mix now.
As for the speed reference that’s just childish.
And the rest of us suffer every tightening regs because a selfish minority buy vehicles they cant afford to maintain properly.
Plus, if oversight is tightened going forward, any of these modified vehicles might land their new owners in trouble.
Imagine never being able to get insurance again because a seller failed to mention they deleted the EGR or gutted the DPF. Some of these vans will be traded in and we all know the garage won’t have a scooby, they’ll just sell it on.
That what has probably happened with the OP’s van. The dealer probably had no idea that the van had issues but this does not mean they should be able to get away with not putting it right or refunding the buyer
Nothing to do with not being able to afford to maintain the van properly, if anything I over-service all my vehicles.
I had the EGR coded out when I had my van. I could have afforded to have it replaced, however I was offered the choice of having it replaced at a cost of £1000, or having it coded out for £250.
The reduced cost of having it coded out was a factor in my decision, I won't lie, but the main reason I had it done was the thought of not having to replace it again in another couple of years when it inevitably failed again.
You could have saved more money by not buying insurance cover either!
Here’s the litmus test: you hit a child that ran out between cars while doing 27mph in a 30mph zone. No blame - just one of life’s unfortunate accidents. Said child will require 24x7 care for the rest of their days. Luckily you have insurance, eh?
Insurance company are looking at a massive payout so send in their loss adjuster. His report shows the EGR delete. Suddenly insurance company decrees that the van/risk they insured is not the same van as was in the accident and therefore your insurance cover is null and void! You’d be on your own fighting that one and I doubt any “no win, no fee” monkey is going to take the case.
As I say, you could have saved a few more bob not taking out insurance to start with!
Insurers are covered by legislation too, that's why when the drunk bloke with 4 bald tyres on a wet road kills an innocent person, the insurance on his policy HAS to pay out to third parties. (They may seek to reclaim that from the drunk driver later)
Contrary to some of the nonsense in this thread, there is no such concept of "invalidated insurance."
And I have no axe to grind, my EGR/DPF is exactly how it left the factory, just a bit more gunked up I guess!
Edit; somewhere between 18% and 29% of cars fail the MOT, does anybody think that the day before the test these people (it's millions!) were effectively driving whilst not insured? If so, why weren't they prosecuted for it?
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I believe it’s the Motor Insurance bureau that pays out (at the bare minimum usually - ask me how I know) when an uninsured driver hits someone else.
It takes a while to settle the whole affair for the victim, who seems to do most of the work, even with legal cover.
We all pay into the pot via our policies - yes, uninsured drivers cost us all.
As for the nonsense on invalid policies you are playing at semantics.
Call it what you will - cancelled, invalid, void… it happens. Google it. The closest to our situation (campers/vans) that springs to mind is covered here: Naivety cost me my Transit van and motorbike insurance
It won’t just affect your van policy. Insurers are always keen to keep ‘their’ money. They do investigate things.
Very naive to think you can delete an EGR in the on board computer and nobody can ever find out. Yes, they would have to plug in and read the code but that’s easy. With more people doing this they will notice and they will, as ever, be looking to save payouts.
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