Single or twin electrics?

Lee

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So I'm set to have a tow bar fitted on Friday, I have two options, single or twin electrics, the guy said that just go for single if there are no plans for towing a caravan.

I doubt I will ever tow a caravan, however, since its just £50 more, I'm thinking it can't do any harm.

Is there more to it than that, would there be any disadvantages with twin electrics if I just plan to use a two bar bike rack?
 
I would go for single 13 pin socket, this will cover all eventualities, most modern stuff seems to use 13 pin plugs now and if you have something with a 7 pin plug on it you can get a 7-13 pin adapter pretty cheaply
13 pin is the factory standard but it's worth noting I think the genuine VW kit omits 1 or 2 cores on the 13 pin socket that would be required if connecting a caravan to maintain power to fridge etc
 
Even if you need to tow a caravan can't you get an adaptor to turn the single 13pin option into the twin sockets for a caravan?
Besides as per cut and paste below from the interweb, it suggests that all caravans manufactured after 2008 are fitted with 13 pin electrics.

Towbar Electric Socket Types
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When ordering a towbar to be fitted you need to decide which type of towing electrics that you will need.
There are 3 types of towing electric socket used in the UK.

These are Single 7 Pin electrics (12N), Twin 7 Pin electrics (12N & 12S) and Single 13 Pin electrics.

The type of socket that you need depends on what you are towing.

Whether you are towing a large caravan, or just using your towbar to support a cycle carrier, you will need some electrics with your towbar.

It is a legal requirement to have lights on the rear most point of your vehicle.

If you are towing a caravan with 13 pin electrics and also tow a trailer with 7 pin electrics there are adaptors available HERE.



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Single 7 Pin Electrics
Single 7 Pin Electrics also known as 12:thumbsdown:, are fitted as standard with any towbar.

They provide power from the towbar to the lights on a trailer or caravan. If you're only going to be towing a trailer this is all you need.

You can tow a caravan using only single electrics, but the interior functions of the caravan, such as the fridge, wouldn't have power to them. You would need an adaptor if your caravan has 13 pin electrics.

Even if you will only be using the towbar for a cycle carrier we recommend that you still have a single electric socket fitted so that you can power a light board over the bikes.



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Twin 7 Pin Electrics
Twin 7 Pin Electrics, also known as 12(S), are fitted in addidtion to single 7 pin electrics if you're going to use your towbar for towing a caravan built prior to 2008.

The extra grey socket provides power to operate the interior functions of the caravan such as the interior lights, run the fridge and charge the battery while you are towing.

This type of socket has been replaced on caravans built after 2008 in the UK. New caravans now use the 13 pin standard socket shown below.





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13 Pin Electricshave been standard in most other European countries for some time.

This is replacing the 2 separate socket currently used in the UK. The 13 pin socket is essentially the two 7 pin sockets merged in to one.

All caravans manufactured in the UK from 2008 are fitted with an ISO 13 pin connector as standard. This system uses one socket with 13 pins inside, instead of the traditional two separate 7 pin sockets.

13 pin sockets are also used on some vehicles especially with detachable towbars when there isn't enough room to mount two separate sockets behind the bumper.
 
Brilliant thanks, I'll go with the single.
As per @Pauly comment above - specify whether you want it to be 7 or 13 pin as I think most, given your requirements, will default to 7 pin (my last 2 installers did anyway).
 
I would be concerned that if its a single 7 its more than likely a cut and spliced relay set up that could cause a lot of problems with CanBus.
 
I would be concerned that if its a single 7 its more than likely a cut and spliced relay set up that could cause a lot of problems with CanBus.
. Mine has a single 7 pin because when my converter asked what I wanted that is what I asked for simply because my 2 lighting boards and extension cable are all 7 pin and I didn't know any better. What sort of potential problems do I need to be aware of that may not of materialised yet?
 
7 pin is enough to run any kind of trailer/lighting board as long as there are no additional power requirements like you get with a caravan
 
Took the van to the place I bought it and had them fit the tow bar and bike rack, a five hour round trip but I had a few other bits for them to look at.

Anyway, they had some problems with the electrics, it was a Friday afternoon and the only solution was to drive back with what appears to be faulty electrics, they mentioned something about having the equipment for 7 pin to do proper testing but not 13.

So the problem is that the lights on the left are a not functioning right, over the weekend I took a closer look at I'm thinking it might not be the electrics, rather the bike rack, which would be ideal because I could swap the bike rack out, rather than do another five hour round trip to sort the electrics.

Have took a video, sent to garage but waiting to here back, thought I'd post here for a second opinion...

So in the video I move about the lead that goes into the good light on the right, it has no affect, do the same on the left and the light work, then don't:


Appreciate any advice.
 
It would appear to be an issue with the lights on the rack
Does the stereo indicate a trailer is connected and do the reverse sensors disable when rack is connected ?
 
Does anyone nearby have a tow bar you could connect the rack up to for a test?
 
The stereo does indicate there is a trailer connected and the reverse sensors are disabled.
 
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