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dancraddock

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Just before Christmas my 2019 Caravelle started having electrical problems. Putting it into reverse, the camera doesn’t always come on, I get park pilot errors come up, and the interior lights sometimes pulsate when the engine’s running. I ran a Carista scan and had about 17 errors come up, mostly canbus communication errors across the comfort bus, but it also reported a t30 low voltage (7.2v!).

Poking around in the engine bay, I found a dead rat stuck between the engine bay fuse box and the back of the headlight. He’d obviously been in there a while as the maggots had pretty much finished him off. I had a good look around and couldn’t see any wiring damage myself and have been trying to find a garage while could take a look.

Yesterday I had a car electrical specialist take a look. He couldn’t find any wiring damage either and said that if wiring had been chewed, the damage would be more obvious and the errors would be more prevalent. He managed to clear the errors, but the only one that immediately came back was the auxiliary heater, flagging a lost communication error. His thinking was that there’s a fault with the aux heater but he couldn’t get under the van to check it out.

That was yesterday. Running a diagnostic again today, all the faults have come back and I have another t30 low voltage of 8v. My thinking at this stage it either,

a) there’s a fault with the heater that’s shorting something and pulling the system voltage down (seems weird it’s not blowing a fuse),

b) there’s an issue with the battery connection to the car.

In terms of b, the positive cable looks ok at both ends, but I can’t see the chassis end of the negative cable. Anyone know where it is? One thought I have is that the juices from the rotting rat have corroded the negative earth connection and it’s causing the low voltage when the starter motor pulls a lot of amps. The car is otherwise drivable, but the battery will gradually go flat if left connected for 24 hours or so.

Any thoughts anybody? I’ve got it booked in with a highly regarded local vw specialist but they can’t get me in until March!
 
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The car is otherwise drivable, but the battery will gradually go flat if left connected for 24 hours or so.
A low voltage battery can be the cause of many error codes so the 1st thing to determine is the battery condition.
A bad battery can lose voltage quite quickly even without parasitic drain and especially in cold weather.
Take the battery off. Charge it for 24 hours. Measure voltage. Leave overnight still off the van. Measure voltage again the following morning.
If it drops more than .3v then I'd replace
....and the interior lights sometimes pulsate when the engine’s running.
This screams low volatge battery to me.

So before killing yourself with unecessary work and expense make sure you're working with a good battery 1st.
I'd even suggest just getting a new battery and be done with it as it's very likely this is your issue.
 
I agree with both the above, a full VCDS autoscan would be helpful to understand what your seeing
 
Sorry for delay in responding. Couple of things on at the mo.

good shout on the battery. However, it’s only about 6 months old and tests as healthy.

Carista scan report as follows:

Basic OBD2:
P0562 (Pending) - System Voltage Low

CAN network gateway:
01207 - Auxiliary heater control unit: No signal/communication
Freeze frame :
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 20
Unlearning counter: 234
Odometer reading: 143728 km

01336 - Comfort CAN bus: No signal/communication
03604 - Control module for automatic sliding door, left rear: No signal/communication

Engine:
U016600 - Lost Communication With Auxiliary Heater Control Module
Freeze frame :
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 3
Unlearning counter: 255
Odometer reading: 143692 km
Engine rpm: 827 RPM
Normed load value: 36.9 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 71 °C
Intake air temperature: 16 °C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.007 V

P056200 - System Voltage: Low Voltage
Freeze frame :
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 2
Unlearning counter: 255
Odometer reading: 143692 km
Engine rpm: 0 RPM
Normed load value: 0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 13 °C
Intake air temperature: 13 °C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 9.046 V


ABS:
C1146F2 - Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS): EEPROM malfunction
Freeze frame :
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 1
Unlearning counter: 234
Odometer reading: 143751 km


Infotainment system:
06922 - Manufacturer-specific code
(tap to search)
07178 - Manufacturer-specific code
(tap to search)

Central electronics:
03304 - Feedback lock status, right rear door: Implausible signal
Freeze frame :
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 2
Unlearning counter: 18
Odometer reading: 143730 km



Obtained with Carista 9.6.4 for iOS.
Download app: Carista OBD2 App - App Store
Facebook: Carista

An thoughts anyone?

Cheers.
 
I’ve had a go at feeding the report into ChatGPT, Copilot and Claude. Some interesting responses that sound credible but I’m well aware of the limitations of AI! It’s pointed me at earth straps (checked them), it’s also pointed at the Aux heater which I can’t get to without a set of ramps. I’ve tried pulling the fuse for the heater but it doesn’t seem to have made any difference.

Something seems to be pulling the voltage way down and screwing up the comfort CAN Bus.

Any vw electrical gurus out there?
 
Low voltage will cause loads of random stuff ..

I'd assume the battery went flat at one point..

Lid the codes.

Then clear the codes and go for a test drive.
 
The battery is only about 6 months old and tests healthy. I’ve previously cleared all the codes. Pretty much all will clear except the auxiliary heater that sticks as a comms failure. Then the other codes come back over the next 30 mins or so. I’ve tried pulling the 20A main aux heater fuse. That doesn’t seem to sort it, but weirdly I get repeated (every 30 seconds to a minute) parkpilot errors keep coming up on the stereo. Could this be water ingress in the aux heater causing causing a can bus short? Anyone have any experience with this?
 
The battery is only about 6 months old and tests healthy. I’ve previously cleared all the codes. Pretty much all will clear except the auxiliary heater that sticks as a comms failure. Then the other codes come back over the next 30 mins or so. I’ve tried pulling the 20A main aux heater fuse. That doesn’t seem to sort it, but weirdly I get repeated (every 30 seconds to a minute) parkpilot errors keep coming up on the stereo. Could this be water ingress in the aux heater causing causing a can bus short? Anyone have any experience with this?
Or could I have a dodgy BCM?
 
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