Very fast, even, tyre wear!

[FWhite]

We had a blow out on a Michelin tyre that had loads of tread left but the side walls perished. Could put my fist through the hole it left.

Judt out of curiosity...
Was it load rated for your van?
Was it an OEM size kept at the OEM recommended pressure?
Since you don't say you hit a staircase or a pyramid I assume you mean it has blown just out of the blue. That is very unlikely for a top brand tyre of any sort, unless some of the above applies so must have been a production defect.
I know that it is not a a big consolation after having risked your or your dears life, but I would have asked Michelin for a warranty replacement.

 

[doncarlyon]

it’s what ever deal vw have with each specific tyre manufacturer at the time I believe.My first new Golf R came with Pirelli P zero’s! Current one has Bridgestones only done 9,000 and needs new fronts already

Yeah Bridgestones don't last long. Had a Megane RS300 Trophy go through the fronts in 5k miles then an RS3 go through all 4 in 8k miles.

Liked the way the cars drove on them though.

 

[monkeybusiness]

Controversial but I have hated every Michelin tyre I've had the misfortune of using.

Tyres are such a personal choice

True. I've got Accelera Rotas (mentioned in ths thread) and can't fault them.

(disclaimer haven't tried anything else apart from the random 35 profiles that went within 2 weeks)

 

[doncarlyon]

True. I've got Accelera Rotas (mentioned in ths thread) and can't fault them.

(disclaimer haven't tried anything else apart from the random 35 profiles that went within 2 weeks)

Done many miles on them?

 

[monkeybusiness]

Done many miles on them?

~10K and got loads of tread left.

 

[doncarlyon]

~10K and got loads of tread left.

That's good to hear. I'm about to put 2 on the front, currently on Davanti DX640 that came on the wheels I bought. One of them has worn a bit odd so need to get them off asap.

 

[JumpShip]

Cheap tyres usually are cheap for a reason . They wear funny ,go out of shape , are too soft or too hard .....false economy buying cheap .
Never cheap out when it comes to tyres or brakes . ....or beans ....or bog rolls .

 

[TeeCeeJay]

Judt out of curiosity...
Was it load rated for your van?
Was it an OEM size kept at the OEM recommended pressure?
Since you don't say you hit a staircase or a pyramid I assume you mean it has blown just out of the blue. That is very unlikely for a top brand tyre of any sort, unless some of the above applies so must have been a production defect.
I know that it is not a a big consolation after having risked your or your dears life, but I would have asked Michelin for a warranty replacement.

It was not on the van. It was already on a second hand car that we had years ago. I didn't know so much about vehicles back then. I think all 4 corners were probably different brands of tyre. The vehicle hadn't done too many miles so had likely been on the vehicle since new but the others had been puncture replaced over time with budget brands because of costs. It blew out as we were on the motorway without hitting anything. I hadn't bought the tyre so there's no warranty to be had, it was probably over 10 years old. I expect it perished due to age and UV exposure but had plenty of tread as it was on the rear wheel. There was a campaign in the UK years ago after a young man was killed by a truck tyre blow out and the tyre was older than him.

 

[John A]

I've always run Michelin tyres on the cars - mostly whatever the latest version of a Pilot Sport (3/4/5 or one set of Supersport which preceded the 4S)
They have always lasted for ages.
I'm interested to see how budget tyre brands perform for noise, grip and wear and have a set of Nexens on one set of wheels (which seem very good) and have worn through a set of Gitis on another set of wheels in about 8,000 miles. Same size, load and speed rating and wheel width and offset. With the wear rate, I doubt they are cheaper than buying a set of Michelins at £1,000.

 

[whodat]

Maybe we should qualify the statement of our favourite tyres.
Our favourite tyre brand is ____________ and my favourite model is ____________ .
They have lasted from new from when we put them on and they are __________ miles old - and not from when someone else had them fitted not knowing what sort of abuse those things went through before I got them or how old they were or how perished they were.

 

[Linoleum Bonypart]

I’d have reported that

 

[Lubrown]

I'm interested to see how budget tyre brands perform for noise, grip and wear

Tyre Reviews shows this although he often inly throws one or two budget tyres in a test against say four to six more premium tyres.
The budget ones are slowly getting better (but that’s not difficult and the premiums also get better with time) but where they might do well at one thing they’ll do badly at the rest. And with tyres consistent results are what we want, and good ones at that.
He still doesn’t recommend cheap tyres.
I’m not convinced the savings are huge either if you shop around for a deal on premium tyres.

 

[Fishinbrine]

Well I think £802 for 4x 265/40R20 Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 5's with the tyre warranty for punctures etc fitted at my place of work is more than reasonable.
The set of Accelera's that only lasted 5000 miles cost £520 and I can't really grumble about their performance and their longevity may be down to other issues or they are simply not upto the job on a T32 LWB fully loaded campervan.

Time will tell with the Goodyear's but I'm hopeful that they will last me at least twice as long!

 

[Chippie1]

Well I think £802 for 4x 265/40R20 Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 5's with the tyre warranty for punctures etc fitted at my place of work is more than reasonable.
The set of Accelera's that only lasted 5000 miles cost £520 and I can't really grumble about their performance and their longevity may be down to other issues or they are simply not upto the job on a T32 LWB fully loaded campervan.

Time will tell with the Goodyear's but I'm hopeful that they will last me at least twice as long!

Good price that I paid £808 at my local tyre centre (online deal)

 

[John A]

Tyre Reviews shows this although he often inly throws one or two budget tyres in a test against say four to six more premium tyres.
The budget ones are slowly getting better (but that’s not difficult and the premiums also get better with time) but where they might do well at one thing they’ll do badly at the rest. And with tyres consistent results are what we want, and good ones at that.
He still doesn’t recommend cheap tyres.
I’m not convinced the savings are huge either if you shop around for a deal on premium tyres.

I don't disagree with that, but I am still interested in what some brands can offer.
I'm interested in the ones that appear to be trying to compete with the mainstream, premium market - Nankang, Giti, Landsail.

It's just curiosity. I know that if I'm putting a set of tyres on the car, the Kumhos I've put on my Corrado will do fine for the 4-500 miles per year that it does.
If I'm putting them on the daily, Continental SportContact 6 or 7s or Pilot Sport 5s will work well and last ages.
When I buy tyres for the van, there's a limited (although expanding) range of what I can get in 245/45 R20 load rated to at least 103 for a T32. PS5s are available in those dimensions and they're north of £200. I know how they're going to work on the car, but are they going to perform the same way on a van that weighs nearly 2 tonnes and has an entirely different set of handling characteristics?
Only one way to find out I suppose....

 

[doncarlyon]

I don't disagree with that, but I am still interested in what some brands can offer.
I'm interested in the ones that appear to be trying to compete with the mainstream, premium market - Nankang, Giti, Landsail.

It's just curiosity. I know that if I'm putting a set of tyres on the car, the Kumhos I've put on my Corrado will do fine for the 4-500 miles per year that it does.
If I'm putting them on the daily, Continental SportContact 6 or 7s or Pilot Sport 5s will work well and last ages.
When I buy tyres for the van, there's a limited (although expanding) range of what I can get in 245/45 R20 load rated to at least 103 for a T32. PS5s are available in those dimensions and they're north of £200. I know how they're going to work on the car, but are they going to perform the same way on a van that weighs nearly 2 tonnes and has an entirely different set of handling characteristics?
Only one way to find out I suppose....

I'm keeping a note of tread depth and mileage on mine, just out of curiosity and also to spot if they are wearing at an ok rate...

Checked them last night and I've done 2.5k miles since the last reading, the tread depth is the same. That's on the rears which are Davanti DX640 tyres - 265 40 20.

 

[Lubrown]

I'm interested in the ones that appear to be trying to compete with the mainstream, premium market - Nankang, Giti, Landsail.

What I’m saying is he may well have tested some of these already.
I know some of the more budget brands he has tested are owned by the big brands anyway, although that doesn’t necessarily mean the premium features and materials filter down as cost is the main focus.
I’d say have a browse through the video titles on the Tyre Reviews YouTube channel and you might find something of interest.

 

[John A]

What I’m saying is he may well have tested some of these already.
I know some of the more budget brands he has tested are owned by the big brands anyway, although that doesn’t necessarily mean the premium features and materials filter down as cost is the main focus.
I’d say have a browse through the video titles on the Tyre Reviews YouTube channel and you might find something of interest.

He may well have done, but I haven't and we all have different experiences and every day requirements.

 

[cgtmiles]

I’ve got a lowered camper (2.3 tons + luggage) and I’ve found my tyres wear evenly and relatively quickly. Over the 6 years and 36k miles of ownership I’ve had 3 sets all have worn evenly Across the tyres and across the front/Back of the van. It’s not made a difference what the quality of the tyres were (midrange then top range then low range). You do have to counter the camber somehow when lowering and the adjustment is limited which means you end up with more scrubbing but if you don’t like it don’t mess with the suspension. The high range set were overpressured (I think changed at a service but I didn’t notice until too late!) and they wore out excessively in the middle as you would expect

I assume lifted swampers don’t have any issues with this

 

[Lubrown]

He may well have done, but I haven't and we all have different experiences and every day requirements.

Ah, I see, you want to try them yourself.
I’d misunderstood and thought you were looking for group test/comparisons. My bad.