T32 and class 4 mot?

[UKparafire]

When I bought my T32 I asked the sales person about the class of MOT. He rang the workshop who told them that if I put a bench seat in the rear and side windows it would be able to go through a class 4

Fast forward a year, to today, and I have taken my van with middle row seats and side windows to my local MOT centre and they said it needs a rear window for a class 4 (which I haven't fitted).

I booked it at another class 7 centre and asked the question about windows, they said that in order to qualify for class 4 it needs to have a bed (which it has) and a sink (which it hasn't got).

Can anyone signpost me to something which absolutely clarifies this so I can plan my strategy?

Also I plan to lower it by 40mm, when I do this, can I put lower rated springs on it and get it replated? Or is this too much of a ball ache also Would that make insuring it more difficult ?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Phil1878]

Is it a kombi? Technically it can be done as a class 4. The few local garages I took it to took one look at the 3200 load class and said no. My advice, you're not gonna persuade a garage to do it as a class 4 if they don't want to do it. Just got mine done for the extra tenner as a class 7

 

[Alster]

Had my t32 Kombi done as a class 4 with no problems. I think @Dundee_Kev is a mot tester and has advised on this before

 

[UKparafire]

View attachment 289159Is it a kombi? Technically it can be done as a class 4. The few local garages I took it to took one look at the 3200 load class and said no. My advice, you're not gonna persuade a garage to do it as a class 4 if they don't want to do it. Just got mine done for the extra tenner as a class 7

Thanks, that explains it, the first line "is the area to the rear of the drivers seat lit at each side and at the rear..."

I guess it does need a rear window for a class 4 MOT

 

[UKparafire]

Had my t32 Kombi done as a class 4 with no problems. I think @Dundee_Kev is a mot tester and has advised on this before

Probably because it has a rear window which mine does not have.

 

[Dundee_Kev]

Yeah, it's probably class 7 due to no rear windows I'm afraid. Seems crazy, as you can have rear windows and do skip run with you blocking said windows and nothing wrong with that.

So glad we do very little in the way of vans/dual purpose stuff. It's nice to have a simple life

 

[Bigsidavies]

I wouldn’t bother going to all the trouble of downplating a T32 to save £7 on your MOT.
Don’t they just check the tyre rating as an extra item, which should be correct anyway.

 

[DaveD]

My T30 kombi (5 seats, side windows and rear window) is a class 7 simply because with the additional weight of the 4Motion transmission pushes its Max Gross weight up to 3080KG, just 80KG over the threshold, according to the garages I've been to.

 

[Alster]

For me it wasn’t the cost just that my local garage didn’t do class 7.

 

[RobertO2023]

Mine was done as an N1 . Has that replaced class 7?

 

[Dundee_Kev]

My T30 kombi (5 seats, side windows and rear window) is a class 7 simply because with the additional weight of the 4Motion transmission pushes its Max Gross weight up to 3080KG, just 80KG over the threshold, according to the garages I've been to.

Its a class 4, weight doesn't matter in your case

 

[UKparafire]

For me it wasn’t the cost just that my local garage didn’t do class 7.

Yeah, that's why I want mine to be class 4.

My local garage is walking distance, and allow me to do my own repairs and still get a free retest.

My nearest class 7 MOT station is a 40 minute drive away, only do a free retest if they do the work, and charge £15 per hour more on labour for any work they do.

 

[DaveD]

Its a class 4, weight doesn't matter in your case

I've had two garages refuse to do it as Class 4 so I just had to travel a bit further and have it tested as a Class 7, although earlier in its life it was done as a Class 4.

 

[oldiebut goodie]

This was always done as a class 4, had to use a class 7 testing station due to its size though.:

 

[fax001]

Had my MOT done a couple of weeks ago. Vehicle Category N1, according to the test certificate

Category N1 is part of Class 4

MOT inspection manual: cars and passenger vehicles - Introduction - Guidance - GOV.UK

Definitions, vehicle classes, reasons to refuse to test a vehicle, narrow track vehicles, historic vehicles and inspection procedures for car and passenger vehicle MOT tests.

www.gov.uk

For reference, it started life as a T28 panel van. Now has side windows and a rock 'n' roll bed. Uprated springs to T32 but not replated. No sink. No rear windows in the barn doors.

 

[Bigsidavies]

For me it wasn’t the cost just that my local garage didn’t do class 7.

Same for me. I just found an HGV place a couple of miles away.
And ironically they tested it as Class 4 because it's converted.

 

[monkeybusiness]

Had mine done a couple of weeks ago.
T32 fully converted with windows - class 7.

 

[Bigsidavies]

Had mine done a couple of weeks ago.
T32 fully converted with windows - class 7.

That's deffo a class 4, but if you can get it done locally and it passes then it doesnt really matter. I had a couple of class 7 before the new MOT place changed it to a 4.

 

[Dundee_Kev]

Had mine done a couple of weeks ago.
T32 fully converted with windows - class 7.

As @Bigsidavies says, class 4.

 

[monkeybusiness]

Yes I thought it might go through as a 7. However I was so excited at it passing (I desparately needed a full bill of health as I was going to Europe) I was happy to pay the extra.
Its only down the road so might swing by to ask.