Hi all, I have noticed that when I am manoeuvring off the drive in the morning the steering judders whether i turn left or right out of the drive. This morning I re-parked it which involved a three point turn and it was juddering with each turn of the wheel. I then drove into my local village a couple minutes away and parked there which involved some more low speed manoeuvring and no issue. It only seems to happen when the engine is completely cold. Grateful for any ideas of what it may be. It’s a 2016 T6 150 DSG. Thanks all
Steering judder on starting up
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Mine does exactly the same (2016 140 manual). Normally, in other vehicles, a few revs would sort it but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Fine once warm though.
I’d check the power steering fluid as well 
Question, may sound odd but how do people get the cap off? Mines feels bloody welded on and with it being plastic I’m worried to apply to much pressure and breaking itI’d check the power steering fluid as well
Just turn it anti clockwise fella it’s a bit stiff but should turn.
This hydraulic fluid expands as its temperature increases.
The mark on the dip stick(integrated with the cap) is not typical min/max
but instead it indicates minimum level for both (cold and hot) hydraulic fluid.
To fix this "judder on starting up" problem just simply top up you fluid.
Even if you have no visible spillage or leak on your system do top up!
I had it in the past and it was driving me crazy. Even if the level seems okay top up!
Just like this message as a thank you
.NickyRider
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Hey Robert, I’ve got this problem on my t6 2016 140bhp manual and I’ve topped up so it’s now showing mid level at cold, hasn’t made any difference at all though and still got this judder.. had top mounts replaced to.. god knows what it could be?! Rack or Pump maybe?This hydraulic fluid expands as its temperature increases.
The mark on the dip stick(integrated with the cap) is not typical min/max
but instead it indicates minimum level for both (cold and hot) hydraulic fluid.
To fix this "judder on starting up" problem just simply top up you fluid.
Even if you have no visible spillage or leak on your system do top up!
I had it in the past and it was driving me crazy. Even if the level seems okay top up!
Just like this message as a thank you
Top up to the brim.
NickyRider
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thanks for the reply! when you say to the brim, do you mean to the brim of the when Hot mark indicated on the dip stick?
Cheers
Bring your fluid level to absolute possible maximum. Ignore dipstick completely.
NickyRider
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Oh really! I thought it expanded when it got hot??!
NickyRider
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Unfortunately not but since I’ve changed my tyres it’s definitely less noticeable, I really only notice it whilst I’m doing really slow manoeuvring. I’ve had it checked by various vw specialists and they couldn’t find anything wrong with it. I’ve come to the conclusion it’s just something they do
I’ve always put the vibration down to fluctuating hydraulic pressure due to cold fluid. The power steering pump is fixed displacement so has a pressure relief valve, the colder more viscous fluid will have a greater resistance to flow through the ports. Throttling through the PRV will soon raise the fluid temperature.
I run the fluid levels to the manufacturers marks and have never topped up.
I run the fluid levels to the manufacturers marks and have never topped up.
I’ve just done this a few days ago. It certainly helped, but it’s not completely alleviated. Disappears as soon as the engine is up to temp.
