My first impression is that I am underwhelmed - am I missing something?

Being from the Ross Kemp school of hair styling Impossess a wide selection of flat caps. I figure they go better with the swamper look than they would with the slammed to the ground 20 inch rim look.
 
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Being from the Ross Kemp school of hair styling Impossess a wide selection of flat caps. I figure they go better with the swamper look than they would with the slammed to the ground 20 inch rim look.
I hear you! ;)
 
Please can I ask, did you go for 17's or 18's and what size tyre did you end up going for?
I loved the look of the Devonport standard wheel but powder coated black, which I spotted just by chance. I really enjoy that these are ironically the standard wheel that my T6 would have come with, even though I also like the Sportlines that were fitted when I bought it in March.

To answer your question, I went for 235/65/17, as did my brother.
 
If you mainly drive on roads try and find an all season tyre that has the looks you like - maybe the Michelin Agilis AS?

All terrain tyres are not great on roads for either noise or grip. Like all tyre sectors they have improved massively in recent years but I wouldn’t risk it personally. Stopping distances are longer than all season tyres which are already longer than summer tyres (although the gap has closed and the distances are better than they were - I’m now finally happy to use an all season based on recent test results).

Tyre Reviews has a summary of a recent ADAC test but oddly no link? Still worth a look, Here
As @Sasquatch and I have already responded with, not all AT’s are the same.

Just out of interest, do you have any first hand experience of AT’s on a Transporter yourself?
 
...other than to say that the best quality road tyres will stop/manoeuvre on the road better than even the most road-biased ATT tyres will... albeit the delta can be very marginal.
I don’t disagree. I also need to point out that those best quality road tyres will stop/manoeuvre on the road even better when fitted to a car as opposed to a van.

Life is always a trade off of some nature.
 
Just out of interest, do you have any first hand experience of AT’s on a Transporter yourself?
Not on a transporter - mainly because I drive on the road and grass camp sites occasionally. Summer tyres have always been enough so far. Even with summer tyres I still managed to climb a steep hill on wet grass and got on a pitch four others failed to do, got out of a boggy festival car park when dozens of other cars were stuck and have driven along farm tracks up hills in Shropshire that take 15 minutes each way. Summer tyres will do more than people credit them for, you just have to be sensible.


I’ve driven a Land Rover and a Hi Lux both with all terrain tyres. Great on a large civils projects… although they still got stuck at times. Appalling for the drive home, especially on the motorway. Not sure which tyre they were but I found them very noisy with a fair bit of understeer and I dare say if I needed an emergency stop they’d have been a while doing it. Adequate but not pleasant and as I don’t need them on my van I won’t fit them to it. It’s your choice on your van. Having said that if you’re ever following me just leave a bigger gap than you would on summer tyres please 😉
 
Have to say having driven a swamper style van, I don't get it.

The original post was about poor quality and too much road noise etc.

Yet your gonna put swamper style wheels and tyres which are going to do the complete opposite and make more road noise and compromise road handling.
That’s a fair point.

Noise creeps up with tyres too as they wear. I just changed my Hankooks which had a pass by noise rating of 69 (lol) decibels.
The new Contis are rated at 72 so I was a tad worried but pattern makes a difference on pitch and new tyres, having deeper tread are a bit quieter apparently. Have to say the new tyres are thankfully pretty quiet compared to the old ones.
 
Not on a transporter - mainly because I drive on the road and grass camp sites occasionally. Summer tyres have always been enough so far. Even with summer tyres I still managed to climb a steep hill on wet grass and got on a pitch four others failed to do, got out of a boggy festival car park when dozens of other cars were stuck and have driven along farm tracks up hills in Shropshire that take 15 minutes each way. Summer tyres will do more than people credit them for, you just have to be sensible.


I’ve driven a Land Rover and a Hi Lux both with all terrain tyres. Great on a large civils projects… although they still got stuck at times. Appalling for the drive home, especially on the motorway. Not sure which tyre they were but I found them very noisy with a fair bit of understeer and I dare say if I needed an emergency stop they’d have been a while doing it. Adequate but not pleasant and as I don’t need them on my van I won’t fit them to it. It’s your choice on your van. Having said that if you’re ever following me just leave a bigger gap than you would on summer tyres please 😉
I would hazard a guess that they would have been on the extreme end of the AT tyre world then, given the two vehicles you mention.

As above, not all of these tyres perform the same as they have varying on and off road abilities which come with varying performance and noise levels.

Anyway, I am not trying to convince you as you’ve clearly made your mind up.
 
Its like people assume 3 peaks rated tyres are automatically brilliant.

I had the unfortunate honour of driving a van with Lasso 3 peaks rated all weather tyres and they were awful, like trying to steer Oliver Reed away from an off licence.

There are good an bad in all category of tyres, and a lot of overlap between them. Sweeping statements about one or other type of tyre is so meaningless its not worth wasting the breath on.

Find a tyre that works for the use to which you intend to put it, and you're golden. A lot of people on here have tried them on their vans so theres lots of honest feedback to be had instead of having to rely upon old wives tales about red sky at lunchtime.
 
My comedy similes are a source of much mirth on these forums. They bring more smiles and laughter than a politician facing a firing squad.
 
Have to say having driven a swamper style van, I don't get it.

The original post was about poor quality and too much road noise etc.

Yet your gonna put swamper style wheels and tyres which are going to do the complete opposite and make more road noise and compromise road handling.
You're quite right and that is a fair point. I originally asked about noise and quality.

However, after reading through all the comments and giving my head a wobble, I am using it for what it is...a van. The reason that I bought it was to transport my trials mototrbike and mtb to events and practices. A couple of times a week, I am on very rough farm tracks then quite a lot of fields. When I bought the van, I am not sure why (maybe the premium over other vans) but I expected more refinement. I've since come to terms with what it is and I've decided to embrace the whole "work tool/play tool" thing and put some AT tyres on etc.

The tyres that I am looking at are on the less aggressive end of the scale. So with the sound deadening that I will be installing, it may not be that bad.

And I'm super indecisive so likely to change my mind at the drop of a hat 😉😂
 
Aye, I prefer the swamper style because I live in central England, apparently twinned with Gaza if the roads are anything to go by. Potholes deep enough to go caving, speed humps like launching from the ski ramp on HMS Hermes, I couldn't figure for the life of me why anyone would want a lowered van on implausibly big rims on our roads.

But people do and are prepared to put up with the downsides, so fair play if that tugs their rug. I don't spend my life questioning their choices so it does raise an eyebrow when people question mine.

For me function beats form every time. To my eye an engineering solution that effectively addresses a problem has a beauty all of its own.

Plus I'm 61, bald, and would look stupid in a lowered van with the crotch of my jeans round my knees and those beastly boys fellows blaring fron the 8 track. Thats a young man's game, and fair play if that's their bag.

So you do what suits you. Its your van, and it's there to make you smile, not them.
 
Aye, I prefer the swamper style because I live in central England, apparently twinned with Gaza if the roads are anything to go by. Potholes deep enough to go caving, speed humps like launching from the ski ramp on HMS Hermes, I couldn't figure for the life of me why anyone would want a lowered van on implausibly big rims on our roads.

But people do and are prepared to put up with the downsides, so fair play if that tugs their rug. I don't spend my life questioning their choices so it does raise an eyebrow when people question mine.

For me function beats form every time. To my eye an engineering solution that effectively addresses a problem has a beauty all of its own.

Plus I'm 61, bald, and would look stupid in a lowered van with the crotch of my jeans round my knees and those beastly boys fellows blaring fron the 8 track. Thats a young man's game, and fair play if that's their bag.

So you do what suits you. Its your van, and it's there to make you smile, not them.
Don't get me wrong, I think a Transporter with some nice 20's on but not too slammed to the ground can look really well and I can definitely see the attraction. However, the farm tracks that I drive on would have me constantly worrying - as they already did with my estate.

Something like the Cooper ATT seem a good compromise to tackle both road and minor off road.

Still undecided on rims though. I quite like the look of @T4goneby set up of Navis gelida 17” with Cooper ATT 225/60/17 boots.
 
Nice combo there @craig808.

I agree that 20’s with a nice low stance look great too. Similar situation with poor road surfaces in South Wales means I started looking for more suitable options.

Once I had seen how good AT tyres look on a Transporter I was hooked on that look.

It’s now form AND function for me.
 
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