Ameland rescue: Ship with 3,000 cars in deadly fire off Dutch coast Ameland rescue: Ship with 3,000 cars in deadly fire off Dutch coast
Just remind me how EVs are better for the environment again?
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Good point. Petroleum products never catch fire or spill into the sea from ships.
3000 cars, only 25 of which are EVs, I’ll let you work out the maths.
Those ships would be impossible to fight a fire in, they are just great big caverns with no compartments at all to separate into zones. I have searched quite a few of them in a previous life.
Class D, graphite powder and some other compounds is the only medium that I’m aware of that deals with Lithium. As far as I’m aware there is no automatic drenching system for compartments with this medium just portable extinguishers.
Burning motorways may be a problem in the not so distant future.
I only own one large lithium battery and it got charged in the garden yesterday while the weather was good.
Burning motorways may be a problem in the not so distant future.
I only own one large lithium battery and it got charged in the garden yesterday while the weather was good.
Yup or the Chunnel
He states just what I said above.
Not much point in turning up with water.
Stretch of M5 shut after car transporter fire M5 closed near Exeter after car transporter fire
Stretch of M5 shut after car transporter fire M5 closed near Exeter after car transporter fire
I thought the probability of thermal runaway with LiFePO4 chemistry was very low, but not zero.
The chemistry doesnt release oxygen so they're incapable of a runaway self-propagating fire in the manner of Lithium Ion batteries. They can runaway thermally locally within the cells, but dont burn.I thought the probability of thermal runaway with LiFePO4 chemistry was very low, but not zero.
I was, however, overly simplistic. If you short or puncture them, for example, there is the risk of fire. However, rhe mechanisms involved there are akin to a lead acid battery going pop (and they sometimes do) as a result or the voltage potential, but not because of the chemistry.
In short the cars didnt send this lorry up.
There are plenty of places for statistics on the number of EV fires vs ICE fires.
Global studies show ICE vehicles are 80 times more likely to catch fire although a study in Sweden showed ICE cars there were 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs.
It’s long been established that it is pure myth that EVs are more likely to catch fire.
But yes, they are harder to put out if they do catch fire (although, like everything in life - practice makes perfect.).
Let’s face it, if we want vehicles with less fire risk we need pedal bikes or horses.
Personally I think progress and choice are better than being 100% risk averse and blindly sticking with things that we know aren’t perfect.
Global studies show ICE vehicles are 80 times more likely to catch fire although a study in Sweden showed ICE cars there were 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs.
It’s long been established that it is pure myth that EVs are more likely to catch fire.
But yes, they are harder to put out if they do catch fire (although, like everything in life - practice makes perfect.).
Let’s face it, if we want vehicles with less fire risk we need pedal bikes or horses.
Personally I think progress and choice are better than being 100% risk averse and blindly sticking with things that we know aren’t perfect.
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