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Hi all,

Had a long look around the other posts but cannot find the answer,

I have picked up a mfsw with cruise control but can't find any part numbers for the airbag loom wiring, my t6 (2019)start line does not have any cruise, the wheel came off a t6, I've purchased this VW Transporter T6 MFSW Retrofit Loom for Cruise Control on Steering Wheel | eBay

Is this the correct loom to wire it in? I know I need another one for the actual airbag and controls

Many thanks
 
simpson_eh said:
Hi all,

Had a long look around the other posts but cannot find the answer,

I have picked up a mfsw with cruise control but can't find any part numbers for the airbag loom wiring, my t6 (2019)start line does not have any cruise, the wheel came off a t6, I've purchased this VW Transporter T6 MFSW Retrofit Loom for Cruise Control on Steering Wheel | eBay

Is this the correct loom to wire it in? I know I need another one for the actual airbag and controls

Many thanks
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That looks like what you will need for wiring in the cruise control.
I’ve just been through this process and waiting to get it all coded in.
This is the airbag loom you will need.
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From memory you need all five slots on the black connector in the loom to be populated. Hard to tell from that photo, but it looks to me like it’s three?
 
The 3 wires you need to fit attach to this grey plug behind the steering wheel

IMG_5923.jpegIMG_5925.jpeg
Pins 9 10 and 11
Pin 9 goes to the black wire on your light control switch plug.
Pin 10 goes to pin 36 on the BCM under your dash.
It’s the white plug on the left. Remove the white sheath and the black plug slides in 2. Then fit pin wire in pin 36
Pin 11 goes to the ebox under your main battery.
It’s a bugger to get too. I found removing the thick black earth strap allowed me to pull up the row of plugs high enough to remove the bottom black and purple plug.
You use a thicker pin wire connection to fit into pin 1 in this plug
 
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Thus is the plug in the ebox.
Note it’s not the top black and purple plug. Of course it’s the bottom one. Pin 1

IMG_5944.png
 
This is the white BCM plug under dash after I removed the white sheath and slid it in 2
It’s pin 36
I left the BCM in place and was able to remove the white plug split the black plug the add the pin wire in slot 36 with lying on my back. Was ok to do.
IMG_5934.jpeg
 
More pics of the mass of wires under the battery and the row of plugs you need to pull up to get to the bottom black and purple one.
And a pic of plug with my yellow wire fitted in pin 1


IMG_5948.pngIMG_5958.jpeg
 
Here’s a pic of the main plug behind steering wheel after I had fitted the 3 wires. I needed to redo them with longer wires as my blue connectors were too bulky there to put the plug back together.
I forgot to say you need to remove the brown and yellow wire from plug 11 to fit the cable that goes to the ebox in engine bay.
That wire is for your horn so it won’t work until the coding is done.

IMG_5928.jpeg
 
So, managed to get the mfsw with cruise installed, volume phone etc work fine but cruise still doesn't, it's enabled in vcds and horn works fine but nothing from the cruise, I have gone into block measure 04 and all buttons for cruise work and change apart from on off I press it and it turns on then let go it goes back off is that normal? All wired in correct as it's showing on vcds as working, any ideas
 
AFAIK there are no physically latching buttons on the wheel, all the latching of state is done in software so I'd expect that button to behave as it does if you are testing the physical button.

If you're looking at the software side it sounds like either the button is bouncing (so sending more pulses than it should) or something isn't coded correctly?
 
simpson_eh said:
So, managed to get the mfsw with cruise installed, volume phone etc work fine but cruise still doesn't, it's enabled in vcds and horn works fine but nothing from the cruise, I have gone into block measure 04 and all buttons for cruise work and change apart from on off I press it and it turns on then let go it goes back off is that normal? All wired in correct as it's showing on vcds as working, any ideas
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Did the van have cruise control?
Please share full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan.
 
Hi, no it didnt i have installed the loom as per instruction and enabled mfs and cc, battery box was a night mare but all the cc buttons show as working in vcds




Code: 
Saturday,18,May,2024,18:30:51:60250
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com






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Chassis Type: 7H (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 13 15 17 19 25 5F 61 0B

VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZKH064455 

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXGB)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 056 KA    HW: 04L 907 445
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H02 4047
   Revision: 23002001  
   Coding: 00114014430401090000
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056KA 004003
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 76E8E799C92C672669-8022
   VINID: 9E606AAAA1D8A9B6001841051401A9DE4C

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056KA" ()
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 P    HW: 7E0 907 379 M
   Component: ESC           H06 0133
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63348000000599
   Coding: 517E4098256884828A79027BA48721E679F100
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3F8642BDA696E66E7A-806A

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2" ()
No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070
   Serial number: 06111813470069
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 7EF8FFB9E11C2F6631-802A

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_LWSKLOVW25X" ()
No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:. 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 047 AK    HW: 7E0 907 047 AK
   Component: Climatic-T5   H22 0708
   Revision: 00001002  
   Coding: 0000000003
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 73EEDE8DDA5E720E4E-8026

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_ClimaticT5" ()
No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 D    HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 8601 330180189
   Coding: A0A4303A0A613431922849742C2B8C540F84708F60464D60330400220840
   Shop #: WSC 66305 123 174784
   VCID: 2C5C05F14FE06DF6CF-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 P    HW: 7E0 959 801 P  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  004 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU027111883310902
   Coding: 1400B0

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 P    HW: 7E0 959 802 P  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  004 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU005121883390520
   Coding: 0400A0

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0009
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442     HW: 7E0 959 442
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103
   Serial number: 29160001768520056363
   Coding: B0FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 T    HW: 1Q0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H03 0212
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32931823901348
   Coding: 10800A
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K 001013
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 438E4E4DCA7E828E1E-8016

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_VW75XParkAssis4K" ()
No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:. 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7E0 907 572
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211
   Serial number: 2311180442A056 Dataset Number: 7E0114v____ 0009
   Coding: 00004000FE1779
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3668279989AC2726A9-8062

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_ACCBEGVW361" ()
10 Faults Found:
0268 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0269 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0279 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0276 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0277 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0281 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0262 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

0263 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

1795 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134

1796 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001000]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:. 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 J    HW: 7E0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10Airbag021 010 0018
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003EK003B94L Dataset Number: 7E0003V____ 0905
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003231
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3D7A38B5AC9AF47E68-8068

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X" ()
No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 971 A    HW: 7E0 920 971 A
   Component: KOMBI         H02 2030
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 450B010300
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05736
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 2952FCE5481278DE34-807C

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09" ()
1 Fault Found:
13654544 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
          - 00 [00001001]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 115
                    Mileage: 130946 km
                    Date: 2061.14.23
                    Time: 18:02:23


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0762
   Revision: B9082001  
   Coding: 042305
   Shop #: WSC 66305 123 174784
   VCID: 68D4B9E19B9881D6EB-803C

1 Fault Found:
03158 - Control Module for Information Electronics 1 (J794)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 115
                    Mileage: 130946 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2061.14.23
                    Time: 18:25:37


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H02 2030
   Serial number:             
   Coding: 000002
   Shop #: WSC 00012 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6AD0C3E98D94B3C6FD-803E

Unsupported vehicle.Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.
No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09" ()
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: Batt.regelung H82 0762
   Serial number: 8601 330180189
   Coding: 030B7A73
   Shop #: WSC 09999 999 999999
   VCID: 68D4B9E19B9881D6EB-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 915 181 K    HW: 7E0 915 181 K
   Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050
   Serial number: 75885701001811300109

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:10)--------------------------
 
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simpson_eh said:
Hi, no it didnt
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I think the issue is that at the moment the engine controller is not coded for cruise control. For the coding see below - ECU byte 5 bit 5.
www.t6forum.com

[Guide] How To Retrofit MFSW And Cruise Control To T6 Eu6 2019 Startline - Also Hacking DSG Paddles For CCS

Disclaimer - use this information at your own peril - I may have got things wrong. I am hoping this "how to" will be a one stop place for all the information, owners of poverty spec, 2019, EU6, T6's need, to fit a multi function steering wheel (MFSW) and to enable the cruise control system...
www.t6forum.com www.t6forum.com
However, I'm afraid your current interface can't do the coding.
simpson_eh said:
have a new interface coming
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That's good news!
 
dont remember doing ecu one , just had a quick plug and nope i def did not code ecu01 wont allow me to get to coding so that prob be why it doesnt like it lol
 
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i wonder if the garage i borrowed the adapter from has a more updated one or i have to wait till tuesday, thank you mmi knew it would be something stupid i missed
 
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so new ross tech interface arrived today got error 0x0 when trying to code 5/6 on the ecu restarted laptop went straight in and all working as it should with the help of this forum and mmi for pointing out i was being stupid lol, both doors now sound deadend as well bumpers windows and carpet next
 
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