Van road tax .

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Hi there guys how can you tell what’s the best van / kombi / window van for car / van road tax . Thanks in advance.
 
Mine (started) as a startline 9 seat window van so M1 class, £195 and car speed limits. VIN number starts WV2 rather than WV1 for commercial vans.
 
Just looked and see a new electric vehicle is £10 for first year.... Then, wait for it....if over £40K £195 plus £425 for next 4!. So averaged out over the 5 years is £498 a year.... Seems mad! Looking now something registered before April 2025!
 
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Just looked and see a new electric vehicle is £10 for first year.... Then, wait for it....if over £40K £195 plus £425 for next 4!. So averaged out over the 5 years is £498 a year.... Seems mad! Looking now something registered before April 2025!
So.. my new 'van' was £620 and that will be for next 5 years :thumbsdown: fully electric. Just had renewal in for the wife's run around. V6 3.0 litre diesel jobbie which is also coming in at £620. Makes you wonder what is the actual point!
 
So.. my new 'van' was £620 and that will be for next 5 years :thumbsdown: fully electric. Just had renewal in for the wife's run around. V6 3.0 litre diesel jobbie which is also coming in at £620. Makes you wonder what is the actual point!
I wonder which one has the biggest toll on the road surface? Full laden van with massive batteries or your wife’s runaround?
 
I wonder which one has the biggest toll on the road surface? Full laden van with massive batteries or your wife’s runaround?
I'm guessing both prob the same..... Basically similar dimensions and weights!
 
I'm guessing both prob the same..... Basically similar dimensions and weights!
So not the usual runaround then, which I assumed from the 3.0 V6.

Perfect example though, with similar vehicle equating to sane cost, for the first 5 years at least. Then you get a saving.

I get that it’s not road fund licence, but a chunk of that (in theory) goes into the damage those vehicles do to the road, so I think it’s only fair tbh.

The days of reduced VED for ALL electric vehicles has passed. It was unsustainable in the long term anyway, due to the huge deficit in income for the gov’t.
 
Just looked and see a new electric vehicle is £10 for first year.... Then, wait for it....if over £40K £195 plus £425 for next 4!. So averaged out over the 5 years is £498 a year.... Seems mad! Looking now something registered before April 2025!
Outrageous ! Tax tax and more tax . There will be a point when overtaxing will collapse the economy
 
I wonder which one has the biggest toll on the road surface? Full laden van with massive batteries or your wife’s runaround?
It makes little difference with cars, regardless of mass. One needs to get close to double-digit tonnage before the damage with each pass increases measurably.

A 2 tonne car may weigh less than a 1 tonne runaround, but will likely come with greater diameter and fatter tyres, so may have more than double the effective footprint. Consequently, ground pressure can actually be lower than a lighter car.

The legislative mechanism exists for vehicle tax to be spent on the roads, but it has never been used, so all the income goes to the treasury. We're paying another form of taxation to the exchequer, not paying for highways upkeep.
 
There will be a point when overtaxing will collapse the economy
Some would argue that we're already beyond that point... at least, if you include the planned changes that have yet to come into effect.
 
Be grateful we are not like some European countries like italy. Road tax. Change of ownership tax approx €500 each time bought and sold although I’m surprised uk not done that as well. Prices of Transporters are crazy (high) compared to the uk oh and you really are not allowed to hardly modify and any campers must be certified and registered and tested accordingly.
 
So not the usual runaround then, which I assumed from the 3.0 V6.

Perfect example though, with similar vehicle equating to sane cost, for the first 5 years at least. Then you get a saving.

I get that it’s not road fund licence, but a chunk of that (in theory) goes into the damage those vehicles do to the road, so I think it’s only fair tbh.

The days of reduced VED for ALL electric vehicles has passed. It was unsustainable in the long term anyway, due to the huge deficit in income for the gov’t.
This is what baffles me. My pre ad-blue diesel golf is £35 per year yet my motorbike, which meets the latest emissions regs, is £121 per year.
The bike only weighs 221kg and has 2 less wheels so is less damaging to the roads, isn’t as polluting and doesn’t contribute to traffic jams anywhere near as much as cars, vans, trucks etc. Plus parking uses far less space.
 
It makes little difference with cars, regardless of mass. One needs to get close to double-digit tonnage before the damage with each pass increases measurably.

A 2 tonne car may weigh less than a 1 tonne runaround, but will likely come with greater diameter and fatter tyres, so may have more than double the effective footprint. Consequently, ground pressure can actually be lower than a lighter car.

The legislative mechanism exists for vehicle tax to be spent on the roads, but it has never been used, so all the income goes to the treasury. We're paying another form of taxation to the exchequer, not paying for highways upkeep.
Some very fair points there, so I take back some of my point if that is factually correct.

My point about letting EV’s off with the taxation still stands though. We literally cannot afford to continue that as more and more people stopping paying the tax on fuel as they switch to EV.

Nobody likes tax. Everybody expects high levels of public services paid for by said tax.
 
This is what baffles me. My pre ad-blue diesel golf is £35 per year yet my motorbike, which meets the latest emissions regs, is £121 per year.
The bike only weighs 221kg and has 2 less wheels so is less damaging to the roads, isn’t as polluting and doesn’t contribute to traffic jams anywhere near as much as cars, vans, trucks etc. Plus parking uses far less space.
Yes, there are certainly some anomalies over the years, as the different initiatives have come and gone.
 
VED is all smoke mirrors and lies by the powers that be. Grasping at any way of raising money - some wasted on patching up rotten roads.( Don’t get me started!) Explain this one. The better half used to have Mini Clubman Cooper S 2 litre diesel as fast as you like - Zero yes Zero road tax. Makes no sense to me 😎
 
My Winnebago that I used to have, grossed out at 12 ton, 36 ft long, 6ltr. £165 a year road tax, classed as private HGV.
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My Burstner elegance I have now ( going up for sale any minute) to buy a T6, 3 litre 9 metres long tag axle. £165 road tax per year again classed as private HGV.
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Mine costs me zero (disabled tax)

But I dont feel too guilty as I pay £400 odd for the Volvo that I drove less than a hundred miles last year, so they still get my money.
 
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