Trying for a gas free conversion.

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DBritt

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Hi.
New here but just starting my conversion of a 2020 T6.1 long wheelbase. I’m hoping to avoid using gas for cooking purposes completely and just use electric hotpots, kettles, induction hob etc. trying to keep things simple in the electric department too and just use a Bluetti A200Max to power all 12v and the inverter to cooking. Wondering if anyone has achieved this yet or any advice for the build.
 
DBritt said:
Hi.
New here but just starting my conversion of a 2020 T6.1 long wheelbase. I’m hoping to avoid using gas for cooking purposes completely and just use electric hotpots, kettles, induction hob etc. trying to keep things simple in the electric department too and just use a Bluetti A200Max to power all 12v and the inverter to cooking. Wondering if anyone has achieved this yet or any advice for the build.
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This has been covered well on the forum & a search will prove fruitful. The general consensus is that it’s impractical to do any meaningful cooking using batteries. The energy density just isn’t there.
 
it can be done, but it will cost you.

as above portable battery packs are no good - recharge times are too slow off grid.

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you need twin lithium's 100ah+100ah + 2/3kw inverter + 50A dc-dc charger + cable and install,

then the extras, EHU charger, solar system.

then the cooking bit, kettle. air fryer, induction hob, microwave.

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maybe @czmate1999 can offer some advice? - he has a electric setup as above,
 
Cooking gas-free with electric, and keeping things simple in the electric department are mutually exclusive I’m afraid.

Gas systems are simple and cheap, but electrical cooking without a hookup is much higher power than a regular camper setup, and so more expensive and complex. Has been done, but are you sure you need to?
 
While in broad agreement with above (and I've contributed to other threads you may find) it depends what level of cooking and how often you are off grid.

If what you need is a single burner to boil a kettle or warm a tinned/pouch meal then it's within reach.

A variable wattage induction hob will work at full power on EHU and lower on an inverter. Yes it will be slow but if it's occasional use to make a hot drink while on the road between sites with EHU then that may work for you. The space you save on the gas bottle can be used for a good sized battery.

If you want the direct equivalent of 2 gas burners and an oven/grill then yes it's doable but hard work and probably not worth it in money terms.
 
roadtripper said:
While in broad agreement with above (and I've contributed to other threads you may find) it depends what level of cooking and how often you are off grid.

If what you need is a single burner to boil a kettle or warm a tinned/pouch meal then it's within reach.

A variable wattage induction hob will work at full power on EHU and lower on an inverter. Yes it will be slow but if it's occasional use to make a hot drink while on the road between sites with EHU then that may work for you. The space you save on the gas bottle can be used for a good sized battery.

If you want the direct equivalent of 2 gas burners and an oven/grill then yes it's doable but hard work and probably not worth it in money terms.
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Exactly :thumbsup: And that’s why I was careful to add “Meaningful cooking” in my comment. We’ve boiled the (1400W) kettle on the inverter/battery on occasions. But if you want to boil a pan of spuds & BBQ some steaks, then it’s a whole different ballgame.
 
I have a lithium-powered system with solar, inverter, portable induction hob, boiling-water tap, no sink and no gas hob (though I do have underslung gas for external 'meaningful' cooking via a BBQ). So it can be achieved, but, as above, it's neither simple nor inexpensive.
 
There was a discussion a while ago about a diesel hob/space heater arrangement. Does without the gas, or complicated electrics but not cheap or without its own drawbacks from what I read.
 
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Slightly off topic as ever but this was the T6 forum camping area at Busfest this year and shows that even if none of us are running a 12kw hob there is a pretty large take up of free electric love even to the point that @Drive Wayne start digging his own latrine with a mains powered SDS drill. :thumbsup:
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T6 Syd said:
There was a discussion a while ago about a diesel hob/space heater arrangement. Does without the gas, or complicated electrics but not cheap or without its own drawbacks from what I read.
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That'll be the Wallas & it's clones. We looked at it when we were speccing our conversion, it didn't get past the planning committee tbh. It's a bit of a jack of all trades & master of none. As a cooker, it takes too long to warm up/cool down, we can boil a kettle on the gas whilst the wallas is warming up. And as a heater, the heat is already half way up into the roof at the point source, hello cold feet.
There's a very good reason why the vast majority of campers/motor homes have the classic 12V/240V ehu/Gas configuration; it works!
As always, just my 2 penneth.
 
Stay Frosty said:
Slightly off topic as ever but this was the T6 forum camping area at Busfest this year and shows that even if none of us are running a 12kw hob there is a pretty large take up of free electric love even to the point that @Drive Wayne start digging his own latrine with a mains powered SDS drill. :thumbsup:
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Only a small latrine! The perfect weekend for 'free power'! Tickets already purchased for next year, if the ground is as hard again Mr SDS will be in attendance too. Certainly well spotted @Stay Frosty , Eagle Eyes?!!
 
roadtripper said:
While in broad agreement with above (and I've contributed to other threads you may find) it depends what level of cooking and how often you are off grid.

If what you need is a single burner to boil a kettle or warm a tinned/pouch meal then it's within reach.

A variable wattage induction hob will work at full power on EHU and lower on an inverter. Yes it will be slow but if it's occasional use to make a hot drink while on the road between sites with EHU then that may work for you. The space you save on the gas bottle can be used for a good sized battery.

If you want the direct equivalent of 2 gas burners and an oven/grill then yes it's doable but hard work and probably not worth it in money terms.
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It will be occasional use, will have gas stove and bbq for use outside and will use induction/ kettle etc while on hookup. Will also be using a Wonderbag (UK Shop | Wonderbag™) to do fuel-free cooking once I’ve started it off on the electric hob. These bags are fantastic to leave cooking during the day while you’re out and about. I don’t like the thought of using gas in such a confined environment without any proper extraction.
 
DBritt said:
Hi.
New here but just starting my conversion of a 2020 T6.1 long wheelbase. I’m hoping to avoid using gas for cooking purposes completely and just use electric hotpots, kettles, induction hob etc. trying to keep things simple in the electric department too and just use a Bluetti A200Max to power all 12v and the inverter to cooking. Wondering if anyone has achieved this yet or any advice for the build.
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We have a set up as @Dellmassive suggests. We have an induction hob inside - never used it - and microwave, use it all the time. On ours we do have an underslung gas tank but only for an outside BBQ point.

We mostly cook meals at home - Carbonara and the like and heat up as needed. I also cook sausages and heat up for breakfast. Being able to use a toaster is also a great benefit. In terms, of tea and coffee we use a jet boil for hot water and a Nespresso machine for coffee. Gadgets listed below.

Our style of using the camper is for touring and spending only one or two days in one place and going out and exploring - typically eating out (and using the cafe/restaurant/bars) other facilities.

For 'camping' usually forum events/Bus fest etc that's when I either use the gas BBQ or one of those cheap bbq trays from a supermarket.

The key is to be able to keep things simple. You're using the Camper to get out and explore, so not having to worry about food in the traditional sense is good.

Additionally, M&S Italian microwavable meals are great and always good to have a parsley box meal in a cupboard. Just in case.

See my build thread - My T6 To Camper Thread...

Good luck!!




 
We have gone for the clayton LPS route. Yes we have an underslung LPG tank for CADAC and for Ooni pizza ovens.

Inside we are having fridge, sink, no hob - choosing to use 2 800w induction hobs instead. Solar on top to keep the Clayton topped up as well as battery2battery charge when driving.
 
denz1968 said:
We have gone for the clayton LPS route. Yes we have an underslung LPG tank for CADAC and for Ooni pizza ovens.

Inside we are having fridge, sink, no hob - choosing to use 2 800w induction hobs instead. Solar on top to keep the Clayton topped up as well as battery2battery charge when driving.
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Interested in where you have fitted the Clayton. By my measurements I am struggling to find a place where it will fit in the units.
 
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