Regretting my dark choice

dilbu

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Hi all - I have a t6.1 kombi in ‘pure grey’. I do plan do insulate it but haven’t got round to it, but notice just how hot the thing gets in the sun. I’ve got a trip through Europe coming up (not sleeping in it) and it’s meant to be mid 30’s regularly and I know it’s gonna get in there.

I’m just curious to hear from folks who’ve owned both light and dark colour vans if there is a huge difference in the cab. I know I can do more to insulate it but am regretting the dark choice atm and am considering seeking out a white van, or doing a respray or wrap.

I also looked at window tinting but I’ve already got the legal limit, and it’s the panels themselves that just get so hot.

Thanks
 
The mk1 Ford Transit originally came in a similar shade of grey as standard. The 60s were well before the advent of cost effective automotive aircon and customers were cooking.

It was actually becoming an impediment to sales so Ford changed tactic and made white the standard colour, on the basis that a customer that is still alive and that hasn't been roasted may become a repeat buyer. And thus the white van was born.

There is a difference. Daughter #3 has a dark blue 5.1 and that cooks as well. Because I wanted a van for sleeping and living in when on my travels and not for looking at I opted to go for white, and having borrowed our lasses van before buying im very glad I did.
 
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Hi all - I have a t6.1 kombi in ‘pure grey’. I do plan do insulate it but haven’t got round to it, but notice just how hot the thing gets in the sun. I’ve got a trip through Europe coming up (not sleeping in it) and it’s meant to be mid 30’s regularly and I know it’s gonna get in there.

I’m just curious to hear from folks who’ve owned both light and dark colour vans if there is a huge difference in the cab. I know I can do more to insulate it but am regretting the dark choice atm and am considering seeking out a white van, or doing a respray or wrap.

I also looked at window tinting but I’ve already got the legal limit, and it’s the panels themselves that just get so hot.

Thanks
We’re currently touring Spain in our Oryx White, well insulated van. When it’s 30C in the shade and doesn’t drop below 28 at night, I don’t think the colour makes a whole lot of difference tbh. Most of the heat comes in through the glass, and at night, the colour is irrelevant. You need some good thick insulating window screens. We have an opening window in our back door with a fly screen which makes a huge difference, especially with the poptop up, you get a natural convection pulling cool air in through the window by your head, and exhausting through the vents in the poptop.
 
We have foil backed thermal blinds I tuck behind the blackout curtains which helps reflect the sun. We have them for the front doors and windscreen but didn’t use them last trip as we have a black wrap around screen cover.

On the last long weekend trip we found the black screen cover absorbed a lot of heat whereas the side windows didnt.

We’re off for 10 days in France soon so our plan is to take the screen cover off during the day and fit the thermal screens silver side facing the sun to reflect it.

I did look at silvered external screens and they were £££s so decided to test out the kit we have albeit is a bit of a phaff taking the screen cover off and on again every day!

You see, it’ll pi$$ it down for 10 days straight now!!
 
The mk1 Ford Transit originally came in a similar shade of grey as standard. The 60s were well before the advent of cost effective automotive aircon and customers were cooking.

It was actually becoming an impediment to sales so Ford changed tactic and made white the standard colour, on the basis that a customer that is still alive and that hasn't been roasted may become a repeat buyer. And thus the white van was born.

There is a difference. Daughter #3 has a dark blue 5.1 and that cooks as well. Because I wanted a van for sleeping and living in when on my travels and not for looking at I opted to go for white, and having borrowed our lasses van before buying im very glad I did.
Aah, I drove a white Transit Mk1 from a Company I worked for in the 80s, an I loved it. Was not my assigned van (that was a humble Escort minivan), but I got it sometimes for bigger installation jobs. It featured an electric "overdrive" gear button.
Sliding back the button on the gear lever top your 5th (or was it 4th?) would become a veeery long 6th. Ideal for Higway. Fantastic. No clutch involved!
OK, everything else on that old van was junk, especially the 20 minutes necessary to start it under zero C.
Indirect injection diesel...
Back on topic, both vans above were white, but merely for an economic reason , white being cheaper.
I guess other solid colors non metallized (that would require extra transparent layers) would probably been equally cheap, but for some reasons 90% of company vehicles were white.
I do not know if AC was even an option, nobody would even dream to have such luxury on a work vehicle. Insulation was also a meaningless word. We travelled by van until central Italy and when it was hot, you just sucked it up, like you did with snow and chains in the winter.
Nowadays, my (still white, by chance) T 6.1 AC system (with secondary exchanger) is so strong that the body color probably doesn't make a big difference running under the sun (and surely doesn't at night). For sleeping inside, proper ventilation is more important, as someone has already pointed out. Anyone tried to make a 6" hole on the bottom of the van to suck in some fresh air?
That, combined with a good top fan should make miracles.
 
Crack the cab windows and use a tailgate bar, natural convection.
As pointed out you can’t make air cooler without AC but you can bring the van temperature down to ambient fairly easily.
All covered in multiple Forum discussions before as has not buying a dark van for a camper conversion.
 
Sitting inside a dark van on a sunny day , 35 degrees due to absorption and convection , uv level zero
Go outside for 30 degrees and a slight breeze , uv level 8 , extremely high.

Decisions Decisions
 
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