Multi Season tyres for Multi use Vans: Your Size?

[chriscroft]

Nov 2016 Auto express feature:
I've got the Nokian Weatherproofs, a brilliant tyre imo.
The only down side is the limited size choice, although new sizes are being released regularly.
Multi season/weather tyres for a multi use leisure/work vehicle, the perfect choice?

 

[former member]

I've got CrossClimates on the Subaru; brilliant tyres but not yet available in van sizes yet!

 

[chriscroft]

I've got CrossClimates on the Subaru; brilliant tyres but not yet available in van sizes yet!

3rd place tyre isn't available yet in van sizes, but tyres 1 and 2 are!

 

[former member]

3rd place tyre isn't available yet in van sizes, but tyres 1 and 2 are!

I still rate CrossClimates higher; they've won pretty much every other test.

 

[chriscroft]

I' ve seen three big test Nokian won one; and the Goodyears have won two. I guess it depends on your bias dry/wet/mud/ice/snow.
I am a big fan of michelins, but don't think they are the best in this class generally. My only caveat is longevity, usually Michelins out last others, but with low temperature rubber, longevity may not be the biggest decider. Mine came with the Goodyears Vector2, but the Nokian have better sizing (for me), plus also they have better mud/grass grip.
The Michelin design looks lacking; no sipes on the tread.
2015 Auto Express All Season Tyre Test - Tyre Reviews Test 2 Nokian win (no michelin in the test)

From the web:
Michelin discourages people from describing the CrossClimate as an 'All-Season' They describe it as a Summer tyre that meets Winter tyre standards.

Personally, I think that is confusing; the CrossClimate clearly is an All-Season but perhaps Michelin's guidance discouraged AutoExpress from including the CrossClimate in a comparative test of All-Season tires. - 2015 test

I think may be the Michelin aims at a slightly different segment, better in the dry, but not so good in the cold/snow, and this is born out by the test data.

@Polzeylad, do you recall the test data/ comparison data you have seen?

 

[former member]

Michelin CrossClimate launched is this a game changer - Tyre Reviews

Michelin CrossClimate is the first ‘summer’ tyre that can safely be left on all winter.

Michelin Cross Climate vs Winter and All-season tyres

Average 5/5 stars for almost 500 reviews
Buy Michelin CrossClimate Tyres Online at Blackcircles.com

Fitted to many Bluelight fleets
Bluelight fleets impressed by Michelin CrossClimate tyres

And so on.

 

[chriscroft]

Michelin CrossClimate launched is this a game changer - Tyre Reviews

Michelin CrossClimate is the first ‘summer’ tyre that can safely be left on all winter.

Michelin Cross Climate vs Winter and All-season tyres

Average 5/5 stars for almost 500 reviews
Buy Michelin CrossClimate Tyres Online at Blackcircles.com

Fitted to many Bluelight fleets
Bluelight fleets impressed by Michelin CrossClimate tyres

And so on.

Yep, thats paid for michelin marketing material generally

Any proper test data against the Goodyears?

 

[former member]

Yep, thats paid for michelin marketing material generally

Any proper test data against the Goodyears?

You've clearly not heard of DEKRA, TUV and UTAC then? I'd say their data is far more useful than The Sun of car mags, Autoexpress.

It also depends how you test them - the Goodyears seem neck and neck with the Crossclimates in most tests with the Michelins being better in the dry and the Goodyears have more wet capability. Having said that I'll check out the Goodyears and see if they come in a suitable size and load rating because there's no sign of the Michelins coming out in the right size but on our 4WD Subaru, the Cross Climates are brilliant in pretty much anything.

 

[chriscroft]

You've clearly not heard of DEKRA, TUV and UTAC then? I'd say their data is far more useful than The Sun of car mags, Autoexpress.

It also depends how you test them - the Goodyears seem neck and neck with the Crossclimates in most tests with the Michelins being better in the dry and the Goodyears have more wet capability. Having said that I'll check out the Goodyears and see if they come in a suitable size and load rating because there's no sign of the Michelins coming out in the right size but on our 4WD Subaru, the Cross Climates are brilliant in pretty much anything.

No car porn on page 3 of Autoexpress shame really.
I don't have any position on this; for Cornwall weather, I guess the michelins offer a better mix. But I think there are better if you are dealing with more snow and cold. I big concern with the Nokian's is how long they will last; but if I get 25k miles I will be happy; the michelins can do 40k miles; that may be in parts due to slightly more summer rubber compound.

 

[former member]

I do seem to get good tyre life out of Michelins; the poor Pilot Supersports on the BM get a right thrashing but I still got over 20k out of them!