Is it possible and how can I check

Antz2

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Just got a 2017 T6 104hp, 10k on the clock. A week before, I saw and drove the van everything seemed silky and the engine ran with a light bumble, you wouldn’t notice it running. I decided to get it. I picked it up late evening drove it home at night a bit nervous as it was my first t6, The next day I took it to the garage for an authenticity check, I noticed a noisy squeaky start, put it down to the cold morning. Drove it, it seemed a bit, not so perky. Got home round trip of 30miles, got out of the cabin and noticed that the engine was much louder then a week before and it had also developed a knocking sound. My question, is there a way to tell if the engine had been removed, a better conditioned motor dropped in, for the sale and then the original motor put back in, a week later. Any obvious signs to look for thanks in advance.
 
What mileage does the MOT history suggest the mileage should be? 10k seems extremely low.
If it is really around 10k then verify the engine number is correct.
 
Hi thanks for the interest, my bad, its a typo its 100K, the van and myself are in hungary(British ex pat) I have the full mot history that looks good my question is how to tell if the engine was removed, a better one dropped in and then the original one put back, or maybe some crucial parts were switched out. I have some sound bites that illustrate the new sounds the ticking sound and knocking from underneath and a belt type squeak. Any ideas would really help thanks.
 

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Smile sweetly at the parts man/ woman at your local dealer and they'll be able to confirm the original engine number from the VIN.
 
Yes i realise that, what i need to ascertain is how to know if the engine was tampered with or reinstalled in the last week, as i may have been shown the same van with a newer healthier motor and have now got the possible original motor with all its problems.
 
There's no reliable method of doing that unless then person doing any such swap has a sudden attack of honesty.
 
I would have thought there would be some record in the coding history- changing an engine in and out, twice, is a huge job, and would surely need some coding to get it to run. It seems to be the least likely cause of the issue on a 100K van, unless the guy you bought it from has a yard full of transporters with the engines out.
 
Can you see if there are any witness marks on bolts, engine mounts etc? If the bolts look undisturbed, it’s unlikely to have been changed.
 
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Did you buy it from a trader or dealer?
Looking at this from a different angle, it's my opinion that you're never going to prove that it had a different engine in it when you first viewed it.
So, if you bought it from a dealer, return it under warranty due to the engine knock, tel them that you were lead to believe that the engine was in good condition but the knock suggests that it is not of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose, or as described.
If you've had the van for less than 30 days you have more consumer rights, but you have consumer rights for 6 months.
I'd take legal advice on this ASAP, that knock is concerning.

Edit; Sorry, my bad, you are in Hungary, check out their laws, I don't know what protection you have there, if any.
 
thanks everyone all good advice, taking it to the garage that made the technical check while it had a quiet engine and hopefully he can remember or see if their was any fowl play, i will also take a good look over all mounting bolts, thanks again.
 
@Antz2 your asking if the engine could have possibly been changed as it doesn't seem the same as test drive have you double checked its the same van easier to swop reg plates than an engine
 
its the same van, i think, too many obvious like for like, tiny dent in tailgate foil on window scratch. as for chappie1 comment, if then can you hide these sounds for a time, fresh oil, would the engine run smoothly for a while and then return to its actual state within 30miles or so. If so could you prove it.
 
its the same van, i think, too many obvious like for like, tiny dent in tailgate foil on window scratch. as for chappie1 comment, if then can you hide these sounds for a time, fresh oil, would the engine run smoothly for a while and then return to its actual state within 30miles or so. If so could you prove it.
If it’s worrying you that much take it back simples :thumbsup:
 
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