Well someone knock down mph signs one week and another week a contactor was putting mph signs up . Evidentially large sums of money are being spent throughout Wales replacing knocked down or damaged signs according to local news.
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The selfish prats messing with the signs should have the invoice for replacing them shoved very forcefully up their childish backsides. It's neither funny or clever.
Would this be the thin end of the wedge that we hear about in social media regarding police brutality or the thick end and is there ever a middle ground eg. recourse to reducing the sentence with some KY jelly?
In prison they substitute KY Jelly with Swarfega, they type with the gritty balls it it.Would this be the thin end of the wedge that we hear about in social media regarding police brutality or the thick end and is there ever a middle ground eg. recourse to reducing the sentence with some KY jelly?
Tuffanega, it even hurts your hands just slapping the stuff on, I imagine, on the plus side it normally has a refreshing citrus twang rather than... 
Probably half or more of the farming community I imagine. In some cases young boys driving huge contracting tractors. Mostly they are 20mph signs, hugely unpopular here. There are direction signs at a crossroads not very far from here that where facing all the wrong way. 25-30 years ago I turned the the correct way on two occasions each time they where incorrectly tuned the wrong way again. 25-30 years latter they still face the wrong way.
Miss representation of facts when the majority take little head of them unless someone is pointing a device at them. I obey them and only a few others Mostly the are inappropriately designated in Wales it was a political decision just to replace 30mmph with 20mph but cross unseen boundaries here and suddenly the the speed limit goes up or down with no reason. Even not very far me there are terrace houses with a higher limit and other places with lower limit and less threat wider road and so on. I remember a documentary a few years ago in one region in Wales speed limits where being lowered for political reasons. A county councillor bought adjacent land and wanted to build, planning refused so he had the limits changed to facilitate building. He was exposed
Its well documented. Even insurers, who couldn't ordinarily lie straight in bed, admit its saving them money through a reduction in claims.
Not sure who she is but she sounds fun.
The news of reduced insurance claims (since the 20mph limits were introduced in Wales) comes direct from the insurance industry itself, not any politician.
Maybe this is why people aren’t seeing such huge increases in insurance premiums this year?
I live half a mile from this camera. The 30mph limit has been in place since the road works started here (which was a long time ago), and has been signposted kinda badly during some of that, but every entry and exit point is correct, and has been since day 1. Dual carriageway doesn't mean anything legally in terms of speed limits, but if it makes you feel any better, you're not alone in having been done by that camera. [1]. Sat navs took time to catch up on the speed limit, but ultimately, it's the driver's responsibility to drive at the right speed, not trusting some secondhand data.
Road speed on that section was reduced to 30mph because of pedestrian issues and noise - which it has made a big differrence to. I live on the next section which is 40mph and is still much noisier (as cars accelerate from the roundabout to 40). There is also now a new pedestrian crossing (where it should have been, opposite the shopping centre). TBH I wish they'd drop my section to 30 as well.
The road is a lot nicer to cycle along now (it's one area where there isn't a dedicated cycle route, and has always been unpleasant - and I'm a confident cyclist but you can't easily keep at 40 on this stretch to keep up with traffic. 30 is doable).
[1] - Bournemouth camera catches nearly 12,000 drivers speeding
Thanks for posting that Daily Echo link along with your post @djaychela a 36,000% increase in revenue raising goes some way towards explaining other possible reasons for dropping the speed limit on this section compared to the original 40mph a hundred metres further down.
As you can tell I'm still sulking about my misadventure but having lived in Sherborne, Dorset for fifteen years at the start of this century and paying double the council tax of adjacent Somerset I reckon there's got to be some way this helps Bournemouth council financially much like they send the parking Stasi into the Pavillion car park in the evening knowing there's a 3hr limit and hoping to catch those who don't come out at the intermission to put a new ticket on.
I know this is just the rant of a bitter old man but I used to like Bournemouth once upon a time but these days it just feels like any other thrashed city with too much traffic and while the beach front still attracts, the town centre, like here in Northampton, has died... these days if I could afford to, I would probably move either side of Bournemouth, to Lymington or Wareham and moan about how quiet it is.
It is unfortunate that City or County Council authority allow the building of housing along trunk roads or any busy route. Small block housing is better than strip or ribbon development. Their is always going to be conflict of interests. I think it unfortunate where historical strip development has been deployed along any through route, they are invariably extended over years but it is unforgivable when its is planned today. Were that is done it should be along a parallel rd that is well setback that is tee lined in such a way to reduce sound, visual impact and promote general good health without recourse to delaying trade and motorists going about their business. So far as speed limits are concerned few give any lip service to them unless they are policed in some way. I think that sensible limits be set for shorter distances and that they should be well signed and with visible repeaters if extended for over slightly longer distances. So far as cycling is concerned watching cyclists in many different parts town and country one wonders if there is any place for them in this time and age. Some make the effort to share responsibility with safety. They have good road presence, visible and self-assured and posses good road sense but most sadly really aught not to be on the road at all. The latter take little responsibility for them selves or others. Mind that could equally be applied to most other road users also and is really a comment on society today and not only relating to the road.
Nevertheless, it's a revenue stream that drivers choose to contribute towards.
Don't want to pay? Then observe the limit and keep your wallet in your pocket. If every driver did so the whole system will suffer financial collapse within a month.
That so many drivers choose to make a financial contribution, either wilfully or negligently, suggests that they are actually big supporters of this cash-grab and want to perpetuate the situation with their behaviour.
The power to make all this go away, and quite quickly at that, resides firmly with drivers. It's interesting that they have chosen to support it instead, showing their behaviour to be at total odds with their words.
I've just revisited the scene of the crime and there are two centre lampost mounted repeater signs on this section of the Ringwood Rd, which again is an urban dual carriageway in both directions.
There's one just after the roundabout by the Clay and Rock tile centre on and the second where Paddington Grove joins just before Wickes, the actual camera is opposite Wickes so roughly 100m further on from the second sign.
No other 30mph signs painted on the road surface or on the path side of the road just these two road centre lampost mounted signs which are the dinner plate sized repeater signs squared off beneath with the speed camera logo.
We had a similar situation here in Northampton when the council introduced a 24hr bus only lane with an anpr camera deliberately sited by a busy filling station without any fanfare and then harvested hundreds of thousands of £ before reversing the fund raising scheme three months later and refunding drivers that had been rinsed, the system was cited afterwards as leaving the drivers designed to fail.
That apart I'm going back through West Howe way in the coming month and will be driving at 30mph, that'll show them.
There's one just after the roundabout by the Clay and Rock tile centre on and the second where Paddington Grove joins just before Wickes, the actual camera is opposite Wickes so roughly 100m further on from the second sign.
No other 30mph signs painted on the road surface or on the path side of the road just these two road centre lampost mounted signs which are the dinner plate sized repeater signs squared off beneath with the speed camera logo.
We had a similar situation here in Northampton when the council introduced a 24hr bus only lane with an anpr camera deliberately sited by a busy filling station without any fanfare and then harvested hundreds of thousands of £ before reversing the fund raising scheme three months later and refunding drivers that had been rinsed, the system was cited afterwards as leaving the drivers designed to fail.
That apart I'm going back through West Howe way in the coming month and will be driving at 30mph, that'll show them.
As you say - this spread of skill/awareness/care goes for all types of road user so I never understand the way people single out cyclists (even when then admitting it happens all round).
Bikes were around before cars and are a valid transport option with benefits to both the cyclist and others.
It always seems odd that some drivers want to narrow the choice of others.
Remember as well many cyclists are in fact drivers too - and they will apply their skill level equally on any platform. At least on a bike they can achieve far less damage.
Just my tuppence worth but I think we have too many signs in the UK and sometimes too many changes to road rules in a short section.
We’ve come to expect repeaters and road painted speed limits when in all honesty that’s a new concept and really shouldn’t be necessary. Ironically higher level of signage was rolled out with speed cameras (which do have their place as they are proven to reduce collisions).
If only we could be more like France - you drive into a town and the minute you see the sign with the town name with a red border - you know it’s 50kmh. Simple. No repeaters needed - the speed limit remains until you exit the town or see a sign with a new limit. They seem to have more consistency and less room for confusion despite, or more likely because of, there being less signage.
Here it’s like councils try and please everyone and that fails miserably.
I was not singling anyone out just answering a previous statement. However I will say this. Bicycles have been around a short time in reality most people walked and some rode centuries thousands of years before cycles came about . Even carnages and carts came long before. Usually a horse drawn carriage is is or has been considered in England and Wales to have similar legal status to a car or truck with some exceptions, so far as the high way is concerned. Cyclists may be drivers but it is not a prerequisite they may or may not be. Society as it is would cope very well without them they are not a necessity. Vehicles are a necessity for everyday life, trade portage. That is unless we want to live life like some far eastern countries with huge piles of goods staked up and taken to market peddling good in other words. Thing is a few years ago their where few cyclists but there has been pushed fashion that has swelled out of all proportion. I used to cycle myself and would easily cover 50 miles just to work and then return. I travelled by bicycle or motorcycle and there where certainly very few cycles around except for the odd clubs trials. Post war there was a boom my parents day which lasted a while and then trailed off. The thing is many roads today and the traffic that they hold are not really suitable nor are the footpaths that are constantly ridden on at speed and then off again without even as much as a cursory glance over the shoulder. Cycling in bands or large numbers really aught ought be curtailed. Cycling without lights at night or dusk heavily penalised, riders of cycles should have compulsory insurance and be recognised in some way such as registration plate or by other means. Not against them altogether but they should be covered by heavy legislation just like some other forms of transport the same should also be the case for hoses.
Not so sure these days - seems half the country relies on being fed by people riding bikes.
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