Fogstar 230ah seat base battery set up help

[m3wood]

there is so much information on here and I’m getting a tad confused.

I’ve bought a Fogstar 230ah seat base battery and not looking to have solar at this stage. This being said I’m looking for a dc to dc charger and a 240 hook up charger. I’ve seen the below kit and think this would work well but debating upgrading to the 50a dc to dc charger also. What are peoples thoughts ? Will this work, is it worth upgrading and am I overlooking something ?

Campervan Electric Kit VKIT02 Victron Non Isolated B2B, 240v Charger, Fuse Box, Hook Up

Popular campervan electric system for a small to medium campervan supplied with everything you will need to connect your vehicle 30amp battery to a leisure battery for charging while you are driving - 20amp 240v mains charger when on site - 12 way fuse box for 12v circuits.

www.simplysplitcharge.co.uk

 

[Dellmassive]

I have a FS 230sb.

And user the victron 50A XS dcdc charger, but run it at 30A.

And fun a 30A EHU charger,, also run solar.

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[m3wood]

Plan will be to run solar in the future but want to find out how I use the van first. Either long weekends or weeks at a time as I’m not sure yet

 

[soldas]

I run 12V 50A DC-DC On-Board Battery Charger with MPPT|Renogy UK which will give you DC-DC and plug and play solar for later use so you dont have to add a standalone mppt. Only if you are not fixed on victron, I know the blue is pretty appealing to some

 

[t0mb0]

there is so much information on here and I’m getting a tad confused.

I’ve bought a Fogstar 230ah seat base battery and not looking to have solar at this stage. This being said I’m looking for a dc to dc charger and a 240 hook up charger. I’ve seen the below kit and think this would work well but debating upgrading to the 50a dc to dc charger also. What are peoples thoughts ? Will this work, is it worth upgrading and am I overlooking something ?

Campervan Electric Kit VKIT02 Victron Non Isolated B2B, 240v Charger, Fuse Box, Hook Up

Popular campervan electric system for a small to medium campervan supplied with everything you will need to connect your vehicle 30amp battery to a leisure battery for charging while you are driving - 20amp 240v mains charger when on site - 12 way fuse box for 12v circuits.

www.simplysplitcharge.co.uk

You may not want that kit. You’d need to check to be sure but it looks to me like the older version of the orion DC-DC which was a rare miss from Victron - it was much lower efficiency than almost any other DC-DC out there and so ran extremely hot.

 

[m3wood]

I have a FS 230sb.

And user the victron 50A XS dcdc charger, but run it at 30A.

And fun a 30A EHU charger,, also run solar.

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Any reason why you would run a 50a at 30 and not buy a lower amp charger in the first place ?

 

[m3wood]

You may not want that kit. You’d need to check to be sure but it looks to me like the older version of the orion DC-DC which was a rare miss from Victron - it was much lower efficiency than almost any other DC-DC out there and so ran extremely hot.

Not sure how I can tell the older version compared to the newer one ?

Otherwise does the kit look suitable for what I’m trying to achieve ?

 

[Stay Frosty]

Any reason why you would run a 50a at 30 and not buy a lower amp charger in the first place ?

Headroom, just like you wouldn't drive flat out everywhere just because your car had a shed load of power.
I've possibly got the same B2B/MPPT unit, a Renogy DCC50S and all you need then is a mains to lithium charger and possibly an Able Mail trickle charger from your leisure back to your starter battery... that's if you camp with the doors open, car radio or sidelights on... it happens.

 

[Sim60]

Not sure how I can tell the older version compared to the newer one ?

Otherwise does the kit look suitable for what I’m trying to achieve ?

The victron Orion Tr smart 30A is only rated at 87% efficiency - This could mean best part of 50W lost as heat. You want to look at the Victron Orion XS is rated at upto 98.5% efficiency - it runs much cooler. (Its 1.5% inefficient vs 13% inefficient)

Simon

 

[m3wood]

The victron Orion Tr smart 30A is only rated at 87% efficiency - This could mean best part of 50W lost as heat. You want to look at the Victron Orion XS is rated at upto 98.5% efficiency - it runs much cooler. (Its 1.5% inefficient vs 13% inefficient)

Simon

So the below kit would be a lot better option ?

Campervan Electric Kit VKIT62 Victron Orion XS 50a B2B, 240v Charger, Fuse Box, Hook Up

Campervan Electric Kit 50amp Victron Orion XS DC-DC Charger, 20amp IP22 Mains Charger, Mains Hook Up, 12 Way Fuse Box, Full wiring package

www.simplysplitcharge.co.uk

 

[m3wood]

What is everyone’s thought on the 50 amp kit in my last post ?

 

[t0mb0]

Those kits look fine in general. Make sure you actually need/want all that stuff that comes with it though. You could undoubtedly do it cheaper if you just order exactly what you’ll actually need based on your specific use case and layout.

 

[Stay Frosty]

You could use that schematic and price yourself up the main items as the wiring links supplied can only be a guess at the ideal layout in your van.
Again a Renogy DCC50S at the same price as that Orion will include an MPPT as well as B2B so you only have to add solar panels and you're off grid.
Not saying £780 is a rip off but part of the fun of speccing your own leisure electrics is the bargain hunting and going large on everything... obviously there is a limit and @Dellmassive or @Drive Wayne are a salutary lesson in ultimate power corrupting.