Buying advice please!

Spuds

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Hi all,

We are about to buy our first T6 and have a budget of about 30k.

The van will likely be our only mode of transport and we will often be using it for weekends and holidays with my 11 year old daughters.

Should we get a lwb or a swb and what else should we be looking for in our situation?

Really appreciate any advice.

Thanks!
 
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Hi @Spuds and welcome to the forum.

Many argue that a LWB is better for the extra room, though both of mine have been SWBs.

As a daily driver, the T6 is great and as a family car it is fantastic. We happily accommodate two young boys (11 and 13) and two dogs, yet still have acres of space.

More importantly are features you’d want in the van. I’d suggest a 150bhp DSG and LED headlights. I would be less concerned about onboard kitchens etc as you’ll find that you BBQ outdoors more often than not.
 
Hi, welcome to the Forum.
Since you may decide to buy a base model (Startline), I would make sure you have at least Cruise Control and A/C. Both are optional on the base model.

Most have at least parking sensors but, again, check that you get them, especially if you take a LWB.
About that, you have to consider where you live and where you are going to park it. I live in a big city and almost no public park place is longer than 5m, that fits exactly a SWB.
 
You and daughters plural suggests at least 3 of you.

You'd manage in a SWB, but camping with those numbers would be a bit easier in a LWB if you have space to store it.
 
Hi, if i was purchasing a van now having owned mine for 2 years (which i
converted over time) Not essential but i'd get a LWB if possible and secondly i'd definitely get one which has the rear seats on rails, so when travelling everything can we stored behind the seats in the back
 
The biggest initial decision is whether you want a full camper conversion or something more like a day van. Camper holidays can be amazing but worth knowing for sure whether it’s for you before shelling out for a full conversion.
 
Thanks so much for your replies. That’s really helpful.

Regarding the AUTO gearbox and higher horsepower, they seem like hens teeth from what I can see. Would remapping a 102 bhp be a good workaround?

I think I’m probably favouring the swb since we will be keeping it and using it in and around London but maybe I need to go and look at and drive a few to see.

Thanks again
 
Hi all,

We are about to buy our first T6 and have a budget of about 30k.

The van will likely be our only mode of transport and we will often be using it for weekends and holidays with my 11 year old daughters.

Should we get a lwb or a swb and what else should we be looking for in our situation?

Really appreciate any advice.

Thanks!
Have you got an uncle called Salty?
 
Thanks so much for your replies. That’s really helpful.

Regarding the AUTO gearbox and higher horsepower, they seem like hens teeth from what I can see. Would remapping a 102 bhp be a good workaround?

I think I’m probably favouring the swb since we will be keeping it and using it in and around London but maybe I need to go and look at and drive a few to see.

Thanks again

Depending on the year, a remap may not be possible.

Go for a LWB, you'll regret a SWB once you try to fit everything in.
 
Based on my experience with multi Transporters over the years.

LWB ( That extra 40cm makes hardly any difference to parking or driving but BIG difference internally )

AIR CON ( not even a question )

POP TOP ( no one in their right mind buys a tin top van for £30K. A decent pop top transforms a van, extra sleeping space and HEADROOM!! )

All are essential IMHO: Walk away from anything else.

You will easily get a decent conversion with pop top for £30K

Nice extras although not a deal breaker:

Tailgate

6 speed

Nice extras to save you buying them later:

Awning rail or wind out awning. You will need some form of external tent.

Diesel heater. Vans can get chilly even in summer, especially off grid.

Tow bar. You might want to take bikes. Door mounted ones are rubbish for more than two.

Make sure the rear seating is crash tested. There are some cheap rock and roll beds that I wouldn't trust my kids lives on. A RIB bed is the sensible choice.
 
Thanks so much for your replies. That’s really helpful.

Regarding the AUTO gearbox and higher horsepower, they seem like hens teeth from what I can see. Would remapping a 102 bhp be a good workaround?

I think I’m probably favouring the swb since we will be keeping it and using it in and around London but maybe I need to go and look at and drive a few to see.

Thanks again
Just to point out someting that should be obvious...
I have a basic 110hp, T6.1 T32 SWB 5G, and, you know what, it is perfectly driveable as a family car/work van - if you do not expect it to run like a Porsche or pull like a Caterpillar. You just have to drive it like .. wait.. a van.

I drive for work regularly up and down the Alps with a few tools, and last summer I was long about in Southern Italy at 2.9 tonnes total, 40C, and I got no problems at all. The small (-ish) 2L VW Diesel is just IMPRESSIVE as fluid torque erogation, so MUCH that for this I do not miss a bit my old good Vito, that had about 30 hp, 200 CC and a whole 100 nm more (and a better gear).
The VW TDI (DNAB in my case) is the closest thing to an Electric motor that I have ever driven, it starts to push at about 1100 rpm and I never need to run it more than 2000 for more that a few seconds (except on the highway in 5th, of course). It does not miss a beat, it goes up and down very smoothly as you do the same with the accelerator pedal. You do not even need to brake so much, becuase the engine is helping you there too (like a good Diesel should do). It must be like .. the evolution of a breed that has improved itself with the millions of specimens (and now it's sadly almost estinct, thanks EU!).
To give you some cold numbers, my travel times on long distance streaks (i.e.1000 Km/day ) are only 10% more than with my Mercedes SUV (staying barely legal with speed), and my T6 does them with one single big tank of fuel, so I can decide where to stop more conveniently.

So it is a matter expectations. You may WANT 150 or 200 hp / 400 nm, but you do not NEED them.

P.S. as someone told you already there is not a direct remapping for my one, that I know. Bosch has put some nasty software coding inside, to resist that. I know, however, that raising a bit the torque you are seriously risking to prematurely kill the "delicate" 5 gears box.
 
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We happily accommodate two young boys (11 and 13) and two dogs, yet still have acres of space.
You wrote that at gone 0300, were you in a SWB T6 a Boeing 777?
Your van must be bigger than mine.
I’d say two adults is enough.
 
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Just to point out someting that should be obvious...
I have a basic 110hp, T6.1 T32 SWB 5G, and, you know what, it is perfectly driveable as a family car/work van - if you do not expect it to run like a Porsche or pull like a Caterpillar. You just have to drive it like .. wait.. a van.

I drive for work regularly up and down the Alps with a few tools, and last summer I was long about in Southern Italy at 2.9 tonnes total, 40C, and I got no problems at all. The small (-ish) 2L VW Diesel is just IMPRESSIVE as fluid torque erogation, so MUCH that for this I do not miss a bit my old good Vito, that had about 30 hp, 200 CC and a whole 100 nm more (and a better gear).
The VW TDI (DNAB in my case) is the closest thing to an Electric motor that I have ever driven, it starts to push at about 1100 rpm and I never need to run it more than 2000 for more that a few seconds (except on the highway in 5th, of course). It does not miss a beat, it goes up and down very smoothly as you do the same with the accelerator pedal. You do not even need to brake so much, becuase the engine is helping you there too (like a good Diesel should do). It must be like .. the evolution of a breed that has improved itself with the millions of specimens (and now it's sadly almost estinct, thanks EU!).
To give you some cold numbers, my travel times on long distance streaks (i.e.1000 Km/day ) are only 10% more than with my Mercedes SUV (staying barely legal with speed), and my T6 does them with one single big tank of fuel, so I can decide where to stop more conveniently.

So it is a matter expectations. You may WANT 150 or 200 hp / 400 nm, but you do not NEED them.

P.S. as someone told you already there is not a direct remapping for my one, that I know. Bosch has put some nasty software coding inside, to resist that. I know, however, that raising a bit the torque you are seriously risking to prematurely kill the "delicate" 5 gears box.
Amazing. That’s really useful. Thank you!
 
I think perhaps hire a camper for a weekend, see what works for you and what annoys?
 
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Based on my experience with multi Transporters over the years.

LWB ( That extra 40cm makes hardly any difference to parking or driving but BIG difference internally )

AIR CON ( not even a question )

POP TOP ( no one in their right mind buys a tin top van for £30K. A decent pop top transforms a van, extra sleeping space and HEADROOM!! )

All are essential IMHO: Walk away from anything else.

You will easily get a decent conversion with pop top for £30K

Nice extras although not a deal breaker:

Tailgate

6 speed

Nice extras to save you buying them later:

Awning rail or wind out awning. You will need some form of external tent.

Diesel heater. Vans can get chilly even in summer, especially off grid.

Tow bar. You might want to take bikes. Door mounted ones are rubbish for more than two.

Make sure the rear seating is crash tested. There are some cheap rock and roll beds that I wouldn't trust my kids lives on. A RIB bed is the sensible choice.
Fantastic. Thank you! This is perfect.
 
Theres only me and my dog when I camp so SWB perfect for me. The OP plans to camp with a bigger clan so the LWB might be better for them. Or not. They should think about it though.
 
Ours is a LWB standard roof height and awning off the side for just 2 of us and two dogs (when they come with us)

It is a good size for going away in and drives just like a car ,

BUT
Can be a pain to park in tight spaces/carparks, and getting around really sharp corners.
Fortunately it has standard steel wheels with commercial tyres, so bumping over curbs is Ok when required. I'd be more concerned if it had large alloys and low profile tyres (which I would have actually liked)
 
Thanks again for all your advice. I’ve continued doing research and we would like to get something in the next month or as soon as we find the right van. I don’t think I’m able to post on the wanted forum here but any advice as to the best way to cover all bases on what’s being sold? Thanks again!
 
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