Lowering front end to level van

[VWonica]

Hello anyone that can help me and apologise if this is already answered.
I own a 2016 T30 with a fairly heavy conversion inc twin batteries and underslung water tank.
Recently put it on a weighbridge and both axles are circa 1250kgs. (Rear will be approx 1350kgs with additional kit)
The rear end is sitting about 30mm lower than the front (unladen) and I’d like to level it up.
Considered lifting the rear with spring spacers and/or T32 springs but I think my preference is to drop the front end to fill the arches better.
This is where I am running into issues, most lowering kits esp H&R appear to be sold in sets and I obviously don’t want to be paying for springs I don’t use.
I have found some Eibach 30mm lowering springs but they appear to be T32 heavy duty (1700kgs) and worried that a) the ride will be harsh b) the ride height won’t drop the full 30mm and c) will they even fit?
This must be a very common issue and I’m sure there must be a solution so any advice and/or experience of fitting either recommended or unsuitable springs appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

 

[doncarlyon]

Get a set of Eibach SoLow -45mm springs on there.

 

[BoroBoy]

Talk to DavTec or CRS. They should be able to advise.

 

[VWonica]

Get a set of Eibach SoLow -45mm springs on there.

Thanks, but SoLow -45 are TooLow. Just want the van to be level ideally without the need to change shocks.

 

[VWonica]

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Talk to DavTec or CRS. They should be able to advise

Thanks, will give them a call next week.

 

[Dellmassive]

@CRS Performance should be able to get you set up with a sett of adjustable up front to level things out.

 

[monkeybusiness]

Thanks, but SoLow -45 are TooLow. Just want the van to be level ideally without the need to change shocks.

I have the Eibach SoLow -45mm springs with CRS Koni suspension.
Its now not a million miles off your rear height.

 

[CRS Performance]

Get a set of Eibach SoLow -45mm springs on there.

That wont work well at all !! removed a set last week from a similar weight van 80 MM LOWER ?? the result was terrible

 

[Salty Spuds]

I’m no suspension expert, so what I say could be a load of Botox. But if the arse is sagging due to weight and not because it’s actually been lowered, then that needs addressing before you start messing with the front. There’s a world of difference between a van that’s been lowered and one that’s overloaded.
Just my take on things.

 

[VWonica]

I’m no suspension expert, so what I say could be a load of Botox. But if the arse is sagging due to weight and not because it’s actually been lowered, then that needs addressing before you start messing with the front. There’s a world of difference between a van that’s been lowered and one that’s overloaded.
Just my take on things.

Thanks but the rear isn’t overloaded, as in it’s still got circa 300kg of capacity left in before that. If I was to sit a couple of 20 stone burlies in the front it would probably sit more level, but unfortunately me and the missus are barely 20st between us. You’re right I could uprate the rear to level it out, it would be cheaper too! But that ain’t the look I’m after.

 

[VWonica]

That wont work well at all !! removed a set last week from a similar weight van 80 MM LOWER ?? the result was terrible

Thanks, to clarify your van sat 80mm on them?

 

[dubber36]

Thanks, but SoLow -45 are TooLow. Just want the van to be level ideally without the need to change shocks.

The problem with lowering with springs on standard shocks is that the shocks that may be already well worn are being asked to work outside of their designed parameters. Standard suspension doesn't ride the best as it is, so this won't help matters.

Seeking advice from people that do this day in day out for a living @CRS Performance will transform your van. It might cost you more than other workaround methods, but if you are going to do a job, do it right.

 

[VWonica]

The problem with lowering with springs on standard shocks is that the shocks that may be already well worn are being asked to work outside of their designed parameters. Standard suspension doesn't ride the best as it is, so this won't help matters.

Seeking advice from people that do this day in day out for a living @CRS Performance will transform your van. It might cost you more than other workaround methods, but if you are going to do a job, do

 

[VWonica]

Thanks. Cos I’ve got 80kg of battery weight the behind the rear axle I think the front shocks are actually running slightly extended.
Have read that 40mm drop is just about within the range of standard shocks. But that said I think a call to CRS is probably prudent. Obviously don’t want end up paying for 2 lots of labour if I run into problems with drop springs and standard shocks!

 

[CRS Performance]

I’m no suspension expert, so what I say could be a load of Botox. But if the arse is sagging due to weight and not because it’s actually been lowered, then that needs addressing before you start messing with the front. There’s a world of difference between a van that’s been lowered and one that’s overloaded.
Just my take on things.

There are a lot of opinions regarding this topic , Ill try explain it from my Perspective , ,,The Vans are designed to carry up to 1000 kilos ( T32 as example ) if you camper convert that vehicle the extra weight ( upto 400 kilos plus ) is easily carried by the Chassis but the rear sags 30 to 40 mm . This isnt overloaded ! . But the Vehicle is now a heavier vehicle not a loaded vehicle . The sag at the rear is permanent and causes the steering to be light , the Van will understeer and this can be dangerous in certain situations . Conversion companies should address this in my Opinion . Either the front can be lowered to match the rear or the rear lifted back to standard . The steering will then return to normal and the vehicle will be safe once again .

A conversion company told one of my customers last week they wouldnt fit lowering springs as its dangerous ?? What they had already done is more dangerous as a van with a saggy back side will not respond well in tricky conditions I E emergency braking on wet roads as an example .

 

[VWonica]

There are a lot of opinions regarding this topic , Ill try explain it from my Perspective , ,,The Vans are designed to carry up to 1000 kilos ( T32 as example ) if you camper convert that vehicle the extra weight ( upto 400 kilos plus ) is easily carried by the Chassis but the rear sags 30 to 40 mm . This isnt overloaded ! . But the Vehicle is now a heavier vehicle not a loaded vehicle . The sag at the rear is permanent and causes the steering to be light , the Van will understeer and this can be dangerous in certain situations . Conversion companies should address this in my Opinion . Either the front can be lowered to match the rear or the rear lifted back to standard . The steering will then return to normal and the vehicle will be safe once again .

A conversion company told one of my customers last week they wouldnt fit lowering springs as its dangerous ?? What they had already done is more dangerous as a van with a saggy back side will not respond well in tricky conditions I E emergency braking on wet roads as an example .

Thank you so much for this post. So apart from the rear now being “a heavier vehicle” is it still okay on its existing T30 springs or should they perhaps be upgraded to T32 spec. Your explanation of the higher front end resulting in light steering and understeer also makes sense, I have noticed this driving but not really associated it with the heavily loaded rear and good to know it will improve with a level ride height. Do you have any advice on lowering the front circa 40 mm on standard shocks? As per above I don’t want to run into issues down the line. Thanks in advance.

 

[doncarlyon]

I think the first thing to decide here is how much are you willing to spend to sort this problem out?

 

[CRS Performance]

Thank you so much for this post. So apart from the rear now being “a heavier vehicle” is it still okay on its existing T30 springs or should they perhaps be upgraded to T32 spec. Your explanation of the higher front end resulting in light steering and understeer also makes sense, I have noticed this driving but not really associated it with the heavily loaded rear and good to know it will improve with a level ride height. Do you have any advice on lowering the front circa 40 mm on standard shocks? As per above I don’t want to run into issues down the line. Thanks in advance.

Sorry only just seen this post . You can pop 2 lowering springs in the front only ( we sell them loose ) Its a cheap fix but it this will make the steering feel normal again but it wont change the ride quality sadly

 

[Rixy]

Hello anyone that can help me and apologise if this is already answered.
I own a 2016 T30 with a fairly heavy conversion inc twin batteries and underslung water tank.
Recently put it on a weighbridge and both axles are circa 1250kgs. (Rear will be approx 1350kgs with additional kit)
The rear end is sitting about 30mm lower than the front (unladen) and I’d like to level it up.
Considered lifting the rear with spring spacers and/or T32 springs but I think my preference is to drop the front end to fill the arches better.
This is where I am running into issues, most lowering kits esp H&R appear to be sold in sets and I obviously don’t want to be paying for springs I don’t use.
I have found some Eibach 30mm lowering springs but they appear to be T32 heavy duty (1700kgs) and worried that a) the ride will be harsh b) the ride height won’t drop the full 30mm and c) will they even fit?
This must be a very common issue and I’m sure there must be a solution so any advice and/or experience of fitting either recommended or unsuitable springs appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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I have exactly the same issue. Would be interesting to know what you have decided to do, as I haven’t got a clue what to do

 

[phazer]

I have exactly the same issue. Would be interesting to know what you have decided to do, as I haven’t got a clue what to do

There's only two choices, sort of bodge it and compromise or get it sorted properly - choose the latter and talk to Steve at CRS he'll help you make the right choice for you (no hard sell either)