Help me work out my plan for converting and insurance.

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So, you can probably tell I’ve just bought a T6.1, by the fact I’ve been asking lots of annoying questions.

My plan was just to insure it with Howdens or Sterling as a conversion in progress, but Howdens refused to insure me, and Sterling would insure for me £1300 but wouldn’t protect my no claims bonus. I’ve actually ended up insured with Admiral just as a plain van as part of mine and my wife’s multicar insurance. This isn’t the end of the world as we’re having a baby and probably won’t be going away in it for much of the first year anyway, and then next march I can re-assess insurance. Part of my problem is that Howdens and Sterling asked me to declare the conversion price on top of the van value, so they consider it a high value van (because the price I paid was dealer price for peace of mind), plus in November 2023 I had a notification only, and in April and May 2024 I had two fault claims in work vehicles on fleet insurance (I was being worked into the ground at the time), so obviously my risk profile is a bit screwed at the moment. Another issue is that my wife never declared my fleet accidents onto her insurance as a named driver and of course they put two and two together when I took out the van insurance, and have let it slide and will mirror it on when the multicar policy starts properly in August when her policy lapses.

So my plan was in the meantime whilst the baby is new just do some basics - sound deaden and insulate the van and put the current panelling back on, by some sucker on window screens for sleeping, buy an Ovano (second hand hopefully) and then buy a decent solar generator - this way we could do little overnight trips. That means god forbid I get into an accident that writes the van off I could take most of it out (I would argue until I’m blue in the face about the ovano removal too).

Then when I can get insurance that protects my NCB, hopefully either after may this year (claims will be 2 years, or next year when they’re 3 years), I can do the full conversion I want (ovano, full insulate and carpet, van shades, swivel seats, lithium leisure battery and diesel heater). I’m hoping I’ll have moved home by then too and have a driveway. There’s a woman down the road from me who parks on the same road with a 74 plate California ocean and someone else when a 75 plate Mercedes Vito, so I do wonder what they’re paying for insurance.

Has anyone else got any suggestions for my plan to help me get converting earlier, or protect the early conversion stuff I want to do from a loss from a company like admiral?

Admiral were sneaky too, i asked if I needed a tracker and they said no on the phone but then in the documents they said that vans are uninsured for theft without proof of a tracker (hence i got one fitted).
 
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Look at Brentacre. They will insure a van under conversion. They mirrored my NCB from my personal car
 
I’ve never understood protected NCB.
Doesn’t stop existing insurer increasing the price if you claim and as claims have to be declared other insurers will adjust their price to suit anyway if you go elsewhere, so is it even worth having?
 
I’ve never understood protected NCB.
Doesn’t stop existing insurer increasing the price if you claim and as claims have to be declared other insurers will adjust their price to suit anyway if you go elsewhere, so is it even worth having?
It provides a set discount which is transferable, but can only be applied to a singular policy. So yes it does give you a discount but it isn’t directly attributed to your risk profile
 
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I’ve never understood protected NCB.
Doesn’t stop existing insurer increasing the price if you claim and as claims have to be declared other insurers will adjust their price to suit anyway if you go elsewhere, so is it even worth having?
If you report a loss (make a claim), your premium will usually increase as you'll be considered a greater risk, but if you don’t have bonus protection, your no claims discount will also reduced, making that premium increase significantly larger.
 
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So, you can probably tell I’ve just bought a T6.1, by the fact I’ve been asking lots of annoying questions.

My plan was just to insure it with Howdens or Sterling as a conversion in progress, but Howdens refused to insure me, and Sterling would insure for me £1300 but wouldn’t protect my no claims bonus. I’ve actually ended up insured with Admiral just as a plain van as part of mine and my wife’s multicar insurance. This isn’t the end of the world as we’re having a baby and probably won’t be going away in it for much of the first year anyway, and then next march I can re-assess insurance. Part of my problem is that Howdens and Sterling asked me to declare the conversion price on top of the van value, so they consider it a high value van (because the price I paid was dealer price for peace of mind), plus in November 2023 I had a notification only, and in April and May 2024 I had two fault claims in work vehicles on fleet insurance (I was being worked into the ground at the time), so obviously my risk profile is a bit screwed at the moment. Another issue is that my wife never declared my fleet accidents onto her insurance as a named driver and of course they put two and two together when I took out the van insurance, and have let it slide and will mirror it on when the multicar policy starts properly in August when her policy lapses.

So my plan was in the meantime whilst the baby is new just do some basics - sound deaden and insulate the van and put the current panelling back on, by some sucker on window screens for sleeping, buy an Ovano (second hand hopefully) and then buy a decent solar generator - this way we could do little overnight trips. That means god forbid I get into an accident that writes the van off I could take most of it out (I would argue until I’m blue in the face about the ovano removal too).

Then when I can get insurance that protects my NCB, hopefully either after may this year (claims will be 2 years, or next year when they’re 3 years), I can do the full conversion I want (ovano, full insulate and carpet, van shades, swivel seats, lithium leisure battery and diesel heater). I’m hoping I’ll have moved home by then too and have a driveway. There’s a woman down the road from me who parks on the same road with a 74 plate California ocean and someone else when a 75 plate Mercedes Vito, so I do wonder what they’re paying for insurance.

Has anyone else got any suggestions for my plan to help me get converting earlier, or protect the early conversion stuff I want to do from a loss from a company like admiral?

Admiral were sneaky too, i asked if I needed a tracker and they said no on the phone but then in the documents they said that vans are uninsured for theft without proof of a tracker (hence i got one fitted).
I used Adrian Flux for van in conversion insurance, I left them once the van was converted, as the renewal was a pi55 take.
 
I used Adrian Flux for van in conversion insurance, I left them once the van was converted, as the renewal was a pi55 take.
Sterling/JustKampers and Adrian Flux are all the same company with different phone lines. I just use the Sterling side because the people on the phones are nice, the guy I spoke to on Adrian flux was an utter cock to the point I complained via email about him, and it takes a lot to piss me off that much.
 
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Sterling/JustKampers and Adrian Flux are all the same company with different phone lines. I just use the Sterling side because the people on the phones are nice, the guy I spoke to on Adrian flux was an utter cock to the point I complained via email about him, and it takes a lot to piss me off that much.
Yup, I knew they were all the same company, Herts insurance consultants or similar IIRC. I’ve had mixed results with both AF and justKampers. Have you tried Howdens Thatcham? You need to speak to the Thatcham branch, these are the van specialists, used to be APlan.
 
Yup, I knew they were all the same company, Herts insurance consultants or similar IIRC. I’ve had mixed results with both AF and justKampers. Have you tried Howdens Thatcham? You need to speak to the Thatcham branch, these are the van specialists, used to be APlan.
They just said no. That’s who my T5 was insured worth so were my first go to
 
Oh another question, my V5 says it’s a 6 seater van but it isn’t, it’s 5….. I should probably change it right?
 
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