@bramble - thanks!! I think I know exactly where you mean - I have seen a few tents in that field before but it looked more like wild camping, i.e. I didn't realise there were toilets available (I know there are some on the main Dovedale car park but they get locked overnight)? Have you seen any vans on there before? I know the pub at Thorpe but never got beyond the Izzac Walton's bar of an evening. We must give the Izzak Walton another try - last time we stayed was 3 years ago just after the new owners took it over so long overdue!!