Upping Van Security

GoatBoater

Senior Nerd
T6 Guru
There have been a few T5's and T6's nicked from driveways around here lately. I strongly suspect that these are the other side of the channel before the owners even wake up and spot them missing.

Losing any vehicle would be horrible, but the van would additionally be like losing a pet (and worse than some family members!). As a result I'm wondering about taking some steps to up the security / make ours less appealing.

Anyone have thoughts on what are good options in terms getting more bang for you buck on security, or other issues to consider? The family have already been suitably nagged about leaving keys inview of windows/letterbox at night.
 
After recently going though this with our car that was stolen off the drive-way (MY08 BMW 520d)

And having cctv of the whole thing and "watching it happen" the following morning we found that Police and insurance company wernt interested and we had just become another statistic and just another victim of crime.

so moving forward and speaking to the police, insurance company, car/van security installers, and a few other people we managed to come up with this 5-point plan.

the aim of the game is to make it as difficult as possible for the scumbags for get away with your pride and joy and put as many barriers in there way as possible.

so heres the 5 point plan.


1- move the OBD2 port

2 - Steering wheel physical lock

3- 3rd party imobilizer

4- tracker

5 - second alarm


step1 (£ Free)

a lot of modern thefts are being done with black market OBD programmers that can code a new key or disable the OEM immobilizer in seconds, this step is totally free. the advice from a auto security specialist was to screw the diagnostic port and cable tie it up out of the way. the idea being that any would be theith is not going to waist time unscrewing panels to get to the data port. Another option is to get a OBD2 extension cable and relocate the port to a hidden place that you know about.

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step2 - Steering wheel physical lock (£20 - £150)

get a steering wheel lock, yes these can be removed by hack-sawing through the steering wheel, but its just another layer. stay away from ones that have a circular key as these can be picked in seconds. The autolock ones have be around a while and will add just that little bit of time required to get it off before the van can be driven....

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step 3- immobilizer (£100 - £400)

fit a third party immobilizer, a lot of thefts are being done with RF key relay attacks for motors that use keyless entry . . . Thankfully our vans dont have that . . . but what happens when they break into your house to get the keys? well even if they manage to get to the OBD port to plug a black-box in and override the OEM immobilizer or steal your keys then this device will prevent the van from being started.

The Autowatch Ghost is the current preferred tech of choice.



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step 4- tracker ( £50-£300)

The first thing the police asked me when i reported my car theft was "has it got a tracker?" it seems that a motor with a tracker is classed as a "crime in progress" and will get a better response from the police as they have something to go on, and not just another missing car or van (thats probably already got different number plates on or has already been stripped down for parts)

You can get fully monitored immobilizers or ones that you you tack yourself. You get get a £50 online and pay £30 a year for the simcard. You can then track your own motor to you hearts content. most of the cheap ones only need 2 or 3 wires to be fitted. super easy.

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step 5 - second alarm. ( £40 - £500 )

fit a second alarm? sounds stupid righ? . . . well no, actually a lot of black box attacks rely on disabling the OEM alarm and immobilizer. if you have fitted a separate stand alone alarm then the theifs arent expecting it. so even is they get in, or steal your keys. and get to the obd port. or even replace the ECU they have to deal with you second alarm shouting at them.

you dont need to set it every time, maybe just a night or whenever you feel its needed. you can pick cheap ones up online from £40 and fit yourself.... you dont need to wire up all the bells and whistles.... just the basics.

as an example the vans come with an alarm that picks up the door switches, ultrasonic and siren etc from the CAN bus. so you can fit a stand alone microwave sensor alarm etc so it wont interfere with the OEM alarm. The below is an example. Cliffors arrow 5.1, fit yourself and add a microwave sensor for £50, just 4 wires to connect up =]

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So there we have it. my 5 point plan to make it more difficult for the scroats to nick your motor....

sure if they REALLY want it, it will dissapear. but even if they lift it with a lorry you will be able to track it to the big container they are putting it into. - next stop Europe right!

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OBD lock and a BearLock (gearbox)...but all the stuff above can't do any harm as well.
Pedal locks are also an option but then you have to carry it around too..
 
@Dellmassive - totally agree, multiple layers of security is the way to go. For info, your Stoplock Pro is not fitted correctly - the idea is to try and span both sides of one of the radial arms - in doing so you make it even more difficult by meaning that any would be thief has to cut the steering wheel in at least 2 places, further slowing them down.
 
Autowatch Ghost on my bus, stop them in the first place.

Ref Trackers, read this over a cup of coffee/tea and realise that the Police give the grand total of zero f***s about car/van/bike crime even when spoon fed the location of stolen bike and criminals.

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Have a look at CanTrack Asset - they use their own people to physically locate the vehicle and then call for police back up.
 
the idea is to try and span both sides of one of the radial arms - in doing so you make it even more difficult by meaning that any would be thief has to cut the steering wheel in at least 2 places, further slowing them down.
Never thought of that, every days a school day
 
Wow - great replies. Time for some reading... and some shopping.
I know what I am like and I doubt I'd put a steering wheel lock on. Shame - I suspect there is a lot of benefit to something that visible, but no good if it is just rattling around the boot. Lots of other options to bone up on though.
 
The obd port is quite easy, compress the three clips and out it pops ( no it’s not that easy but with patience it will)
Remove drivers dash end cap and it will easily reach there. Secure with a cable tie. If you want to be nasty then purchase another plug and fit that. Mine has a sting and will blow anything thats plugged it to it.
 
Great solutions, I hadn’t thought of the OBD port, cheers for that.


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I’m a fan of the Safe T Pedal.
A good solid bit of kit and for me the best VFM deterrent/ anti theft device out there

It nicely wedges between the passenger seat and bottom of the handbrake shroud/ moulding to stop it moving around in transit
 
Excuse my ignorance, how does Autowatch Ghost work? Is there a device you need to purchase too? Reviews?


Search in this forum or online/ YouTube for reviews Etc....

It's wired into the van by the installers. It's a CAN based imobilzer that disables the engine... even if you have the keys it won't start untill you key in your secret code using the OEM dash buttons. Simple, but very effective. You can have the bluetooth option for auto diassarming, but i think thats lowering the security level of the device.
 
Trackers are useless, had a van stolen in my street which had a tracker fitted, the tracker was active, the police took the trace and location, They do actually turn up to look for it but found the location was a locked scumbag compound, the likes who live in caravans. The police would not enter and said a search warrant would take too long and just dropped the case so whats the point ?

Steering wheel locks like the above example are useless, scum bags simply cut the steering wheel to get it off, 2 second job with bolt cutters.
 
Search in this forum or online/ YouTube for reviews Etc....

It's wired into the van by the installers. It's a CAN based imobilzer that disables the engine... even if you have the keys it won't start untill you key in your secret code using the OEM dash buttons. Simple, but very effective. You can have the bluetooth option for auto diassarming, but i think thats lowering the security level of the device.

How does this prevent the ECU/BCM reflash hacks that some scumbags use to take you motor?
 
How does this prevent the ECU/BCM reflash hacks that some scumbags use to take you motor?
No known cases of this hack working on our generation of ECUs plus its a time thing, would take too long to do this and they would be quicker just turning up with a tow away truck and just lifting it onboard and driving away.

All the layers we have discussed at length on here are all designed as "time wasters" and "Move along" tactics.
 
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