TSi tuning

[BognorMotors]

Oli at Bognor did look into it but reckoned that is how it should behave......I knew I got fobbed off at the time but I was so busy with other stuff I couldn't be bothered to pursue it any further so now I just have to drive in manual mode when towing and Sport everywhere else.
Wish I had insisted it went back to factory at the time as it was much better just using sport in cruise!

No one was fobbed off. We worked with both you and TVS at the time. We are always happy to look back into it with you and your vehicle. We don’t have any issues with TVS at all. We don’t write the software so we rely on the information from TVS. Drop me a DM if you’d like us to see if there is another solution.

 

[Rfkdemon]

No one was fobbed off. We worked with both you and TVS at the time. We are always happy to look back into it with you and your vehicle. We don’t have any issues with TVS at all. We don’t write the software so we rely on the information from TVS. Drop me a DM if you’d like us to see if there is another solution.

I don't think this is a professional or appropriate place to discuss this....nothing against Bognor they are a great company to deal with, we both wasted time trying to resolve it and we were fobbed off by TVS that this is 'normal'.
I fully appreciate bognor looking into it and thanked them at the time.

I'd love to know if there was a solution to fix this issue with the way the TVS map behaves but as yet I have yet to be offered one.

The point of the post is that it's interesting that cruise works in Sport on at leave one other members TVS map but not mine which is the experience I have of the TVS map.

My experience is that if you want to use cruise control in Sport, it's best to stick with the OEM map or another solution because TVS have said their map will revert to Drive mode when cruise is activated and that is normal.

 

[BognorMotors]

Agreed and my reply was because it made it look like we fobbed you off. But always happy to have a chat moving forward.

 

[BognorMotors]

l've Sent you a DM @Rfkdemon

 

[tandino]

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the DSG map! I have one from Bognor motors and it is awful, cost me a lot of money and soon as I put it in cruise control it defaults back to the standard map so it's utterly useless for towing etc. Has to be driven in sport mode constantly and hangs onto gears for ages even when doing a constant speed. Not very intelligent.

Mat

I have the tvs stage 2+ map on my tsi and no problem with cruise control in D either ?

 

[Mars2]

I think I never posted here the Dyno of my T6 TSI TTE450 with E85 Fuel. Here in France E85 is available at gas station
487 HP and 610NM (2bar peak boost tapering to 1.7 bar) back in February. 190.000Km on the T6

 

[Mars2]

Can TVS do the following:

- Activate Launch control on T6 TSI? Possible to change Rpm Launch?
- remove auto up shifting in 5Th gear to 6th at 5000rpm in D and S. In manual it doesn't upshift by itself when reaching 5000rpm in 5th gear

 

[tandino]

Can TVS do the following:

- Activate Launch control on T6 TSI? Possible to change Rpm Launch?
- remove auto up shifting in 5Th gear to 6th at 5000rpm in D and S. In manual it doesn't upshift by itself when reaching 5000rpm in 5th gear

My van definitely doesn't auto upshift at 5k rpm from 5th to 6th.
Can't comment about launch control

 

[tandino]

So resurrecting this.
Im speaking to a turbo specialist and we've decided that the stock tsi turbo is very compromised even when hybridised to produce serious power.
So , we are trying to fathom if a k04 64 from a Golf 6 R will fit in the stock location, visually the turbo configuration is identical to the tsi ihi bar the compressor cover and more specifically the inlet and outlet of said comp cover.
Has anyone ever fitted one to a to a t6 tsi ?

 

[Mars2]

K04/064 And OEM TSI have very different cold side housing shape. You will need custom piping to fit a K04/064 in a T6 TSI you will not be able to use the OEM Electronique dump valve unless you get the housing of K04/064 machined to do so.
K04/064 will never make the power of a TTE450 ( Hybrid OEM IHI JH5 T6 TSI turbo)
On AUDI B8 2.0TFSI same engine as T6 TSI the Highest ever MAF reading with a K04/064 is about 295Gr.S most are around 280G.S
With My TTE450 my MAF reading is 342G.s so about 16% more air flow than a K04/064

I make 487BHP and 610NM with a T6 TSI JH5 Hybrid ( TTE 450).

JH5 OEM T6 TSI TUrbo has Bigger Turbine wheel ( hot side ) than à K04/064
JH5 turbine from T6 and AUDI B8 2.0TFSI is 44/52mm
K04/064 is 44/50.5mm

here are some turbo spec I collect a few year ago when I wanted to choose my turbo

 

[Mars2]

The most important thing to do great power on T6 TSI with Bosch MED17.1 ECU is to find a Tuner that is able to remove the 1.6 Bar hard limit ( 24PSI) in this ECU
then you can make power I have 2.0 Bar peak boost tampering to 1.7Bar at red Line

 

[Mars2]

Also TTE 450 has so much bigger turbine than K04/064 that you have much more potential to add timing and keep EGT OK
I have EGT Gauge on dash with memory and alarm. The most I have ever see is 980°C

Before I had an IHI Hybrid from Turbo Centrum very similar in term of Turbine and compressor wheel than a K04/064 and I had get close to 1050°C EGT
I made 415 BHP and 580 Nm with that Turbo

 

[tandino]

Also TTE 450 has so much bigger turbine than K04/064 that you have much more potential to add timing and keep EGT OK
I have EGT Gauge on dash with memory and alarm. The most I have ever see is 980°C

Before I had an IHI Hybrid from Turbo Centrum very similar in term of Turbine and compressor wheel than a K04/064 and I had get close to 1050°C EGT
I made 415 BHP and 580 Nm with that Turbo

Also TTE 450 has so much bigger turbine than K04/064 that you have much more potential to add timing and keep EGT OK
I have EGT Gauge on dash with memory and alarm. The most I have ever see is 980°C

Before I had an IHI Hybrid from Turbo Centrum very similar in term of Turbine and compressor wheel than a K04/064 and I had get close to 1050°C EGT
I made 415 BHP and 580 Nm with that Turbo

I wont be running a stock k04 if we go down the route we are trying for, it will be hybridised as no point in going to all the effort to fit a stock turbo.

Attached are both turbo's stripped side by side.
Everything in the K04 is bigger stock vs stock so gives more options to build something that will out perform a tte spec turbo, if we can work out the compressor issues

 

[tandino]

The turbo builder is confident in 450-480 bhp on a k04 64 on 99ron, he builds them regularly, obviously fueling dependant.

 

[Mars2]

Honestly hard to see on your picture what is bigger. for sure one in front is bigger that is called perspective

 

[Mars2]

What I see is that TTE450 based on IHI JH5 and TTE480 based on K04/064 with both same Wheel's inside from GTX2971R inside make both about exact same power.

a TTE 480 on E85 make about480 BHP
A TTE 450 like mine make Also make Around 480 BHP on E85.

I don't see see what is this idea that KO4 is so much better than IHI JH5 when hybridized. I have been discussing it so much on AUDI B8 forum.

If you are ready to modify inlet and IC piping why not go to Garrett G25-550 or Bigger G series. That is a real upgrade

Turbocharger Kit for Volkswagen EA113 and EA888 TFSi Garrett G-Series 1050°C

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one guy here already make more than 500BHP with one of those

PS that is not OEM K04/064? it has the Electronic dump valve location? Is it Chinese copy of K04/064

 

[tandino]

What I see is that TTE450 based on IHI JH5 and TTE480 based on K04/064 with both same Wheel's inside from GTX2971R inside make both about exact same power.

a TTE 480 on E85 make about480 BHP
A TTE 450 like mine make Also make Around 480 BHP on E85.

I don't see see what is this idea that KO4 is so much better than IHI JH5 when hybridized. I have been discussing it so much on AUDI B8 forum.

If you are ready to modify inlet and IC piping why not go to Garrett G25-550 or Bigger G series. That is a real upgrade

Turbocharger Kit for Volkswagen EA113 and EA888 TFSi Garrett G-Series 1050°C

Stainless steel exhaust manifold "Thor" and Garrett G-Series Turbocharger for the 2.0 R4 16v "Turbo FSI" / TSI / TFSI (EA113 + EA888 Gen2) engine of…

www.turbo-total.com

one guy here already make more than 500BHP with one of those

PS that is not OEM K04/064? it has the Electronic dump valve location? Is it Chinese copy of K04/064

View attachment 303501

View attachment 303502

That's the tsi ihi compressor cover you've pointed to, the k04 is on the right.
Alot of it is down to ££, I want to do this without spending 3k on a turbo/manifold

 

[Mars2]

yes price was also my point. that is why I went TTE for 1450 Euro.
I have hesitate a long time going G25-550 or TTE450. At te end Price and OEM looking sent me to TTE450.
Some german's made 445HP using gazoline witH TTE 450 so I was sure I would make more than 450 BHP with my setup, plenty enough for me .

With E85 I need a lot more modification to the Fueling system ( LPFP, HPFP and Bigger Injector's) so it's getting expensive but deliver much more power and cost only 0.68Euro/Liter

yes I just realized I looked at wrong Compressor housing looking quick at the one look biggest for me.

 

[tandino]

K04/064 And OEM TSI have very different cold side housing shape. You will need custom piping to fit a K04/064 in a T6 TSI you will not be able to use the OEM Electronique dump valve unless you get the housing of K04/064 machined to do so.
K04/064 will never make the power of a TTE450 ( Hybrid OEM IHI JH5 T6 TSI turbo)
On AUDI B8 2.0TFSI same engine as T6 TSI the Highest ever MAF reading with a K04/064 is about 295Gr.S most are around 280G.S
With My TTE450 my MAF reading is 342G.s so about 16% more air flow than a K04/064

I make 487BHP and 610NM with a T6 TSI JH5 Hybrid ( TTE 450).

JH5 OEM T6 TSI TUrbo has Bigger Turbine wheel ( hot side ) than à K04/064
JH5 turbine from T6 and AUDI B8 2.0TFSI is 44/52mm
K04/064 is 44/50.5mm

here are some turbo spec I collect a few year ago when I wanted to choose my turbo

View attachment 303452

I've seen both the core of ihi jb5 and the core of the k04 64 and the turbine wheel and housing is massively bigger on the k04 64

 

[EricVanDynamite]

Morning folks.
Considering one of the new Forge electronic atmospheric dump valves with the Black Friday discount.

Really embarrassing stupid question but install a driveway job?
I can’t see the turbo from the top of the engine bay - guessing it’s right at the back on the manifold - so how easy is it to fit one of these given it just goes on the turbo?

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