Tdi400 To 450 Engine Difference
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Google for the following documents might be a good starting point:
- SSP 455 2.0l TDI engines in the T5 2010 ---> 2.0 Litre TDI Engines in the Volkswagen T5 2010 | SSP 455 Online | Free Download
- SSP 564 The 2.0 litre TDI engine in the T6 ---> The T6 2.0L TDi SSP-564
ah right, look s like the Auzzies are listing thing different,
they listing them by Nm power.
so, they are ALL EU6 and bluemotion. (not the older EU5 engine)
the same 2.0ltrs engine is available in 3x power options: 340/400/450Nm (Europe lists them as BHP or PSI power) (Europe has 4x power options, 84/102/150/204PS)
so the basic difference is more power,
its a trade off for more power/torque vs fuel economy =]
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AUS - VW Transporter Van 2018 | Vans | Volkswagen Australia
UK - VW Transporter Panel Van | VW Vans
AUS - https://www.volkswagen.com.au/conte...t.file/VW_Transporter_Specifications_MY19.pdf
UK - https://www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/c...enditions/original./transporters-brochure.pdf
TDI400
Some grunt
Boasting a bi-Turbo with up to 132kW and 400Nm of torque3, the TDI400 delivers an impressive amount of grunt. It’s even available with the latest 4Motion technology in conjunction with DSG transmissions.
3. Fuel consumption figures according to Australia Design Rule (ADR) 81/02 derived from laboratory testing. Factors including but not limited to driving style, road and traffic conditions, environmental influences, vehicle condition and accessories fitted, will in practice in the real world lead to figures which generally differ from those advertised. Advertised figures are meant for comparison amongst vehicles only.
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TDI340
Economical
With 103kW of power and 340Nm of torque3, while this turbo-engine is undoubtedly powerful, it’s also the more economical of the Transporter options.
3. Fuel consumption figures according to Australia Design Rule (ADR) 81/02 derived from laboratory testing. Factors including but not limited to driving style, road and traffic conditions, environmental influences, vehicle condition and accessories fitted, will in practice in the real world lead to figures which generally differ from those advertised. Advertised figures are meant for comparison amongst vehicles only.
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https://www.volkswagen.com.au/conte...t.file/VW_Transporter_Specifications_MY19.pdf
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Engine 2.0 litre TDI340 BlueMotion Technology 2.0 litre TDI400 BlueMotion Technology 2.0 Litre TDI450 BlueMotion Technology Type 4 cylinder inline turbocharged direct injection diesel with engine Start/Stop system^ 4 cylinder inline bi-turbo direct injection diesel with engine Start/Stop system^ 4 cylinder inline bi-turbo direct injection diesel with engine Start/Stop system^ Max power, kW @ rpm 103 @ 3,500 132 @ 4,000 150 @ 4000 Max torque, Nm @ rpm 340 @ 1,750-2,500 400 @ 1,500-2,000 450@ 1400-2400 Cubic capacity, litres/cc 1,968 1,968 1,968 Bore/stroke (mm) 81.0 x 95.5 81.0 x 95.5 81.0 x 95.5 Compression ratio 16.5:1 16.5:1 15.5:1 Fuel type (recommended) Diesel DIN EN 590 Diesel DIN EN 590 Diesel DIN EN 590
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they listing them by Nm power.
so, they are ALL EU6 and bluemotion. (not the older EU5 engine)
the same 2.0ltrs engine is available in 3x power options: 340/400/450Nm (Europe lists them as BHP or PSI power) (Europe has 4x power options, 84/102/150/204PS)
so the basic difference is more power,
its a trade off for more power/torque vs fuel economy =]
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AUS - VW Transporter Van 2018 | Vans | Volkswagen Australia
UK - VW Transporter Panel Van | VW Vans
AUS - https://www.volkswagen.com.au/conte...t.file/VW_Transporter_Specifications_MY19.pdf
UK - https://www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/c...enditions/original./transporters-brochure.pdf
TDI400
Some grunt
Boasting a bi-Turbo with up to 132kW and 400Nm of torque3, the TDI400 delivers an impressive amount of grunt. It’s even available with the latest 4Motion technology in conjunction with DSG transmissions.
3. Fuel consumption figures according to Australia Design Rule (ADR) 81/02 derived from laboratory testing. Factors including but not limited to driving style, road and traffic conditions, environmental influences, vehicle condition and accessories fitted, will in practice in the real world lead to figures which generally differ from those advertised. Advertised figures are meant for comparison amongst vehicles only.
.
TDI340
Economical
With 103kW of power and 340Nm of torque3, while this turbo-engine is undoubtedly powerful, it’s also the more economical of the Transporter options.
3. Fuel consumption figures according to Australia Design Rule (ADR) 81/02 derived from laboratory testing. Factors including but not limited to driving style, road and traffic conditions, environmental influences, vehicle condition and accessories fitted, will in practice in the real world lead to figures which generally differ from those advertised. Advertised figures are meant for comparison amongst vehicles only.
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https://www.volkswagen.com.au/conte...t.file/VW_Transporter_Specifications_MY19.pdf
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Engine 2.0 litre TDI340 BlueMotion Technology 2.0 litre TDI400 BlueMotion Technology 2.0 Litre TDI450 BlueMotion Technology Type 4 cylinder inline turbocharged direct injection diesel with engine Start/Stop system^ 4 cylinder inline bi-turbo direct injection diesel with engine Start/Stop system^ 4 cylinder inline bi-turbo direct injection diesel with engine Start/Stop system^ Max power, kW @ rpm 103 @ 3,500 132 @ 4,000 150 @ 4000 Max torque, Nm @ rpm 340 @ 1,750-2,500 400 @ 1,500-2,000 450@ 1400-2400 Cubic capacity, litres/cc 1,968 1,968 1,968 Bore/stroke (mm) 81.0 x 95.5 81.0 x 95.5 81.0 x 95.5 Compression ratio 16.5:1 16.5:1 15.5:1 Fuel type (recommended) Diesel DIN EN 590 Diesel DIN EN 590 Diesel DIN EN 590
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I still think the "400" is hardwarewise the one described in the SSP 455 (T5 2010) under engine designation CFCA. In Europe that engine was installed in T6 till about 2016.
And the "450" would be in the SSP 564 engine under designation CXEB. Unfortunately neither the AUS configurator nor the brochures go down to that level details.
A kind of indication of these being "different generation engines" would be e.g. announced fuel consumption figures in the spec - significantly better for the "450". Actually the "450" being the most economical of all these!
Anyways, the spec for the "340" above is very similar to EU5 140PS engine (not the EU6 150PS). Also the torque vs. rpm values seem to support this theory.
When using "liters/100km" - the smaller figure the better.
Anyways, happy to stand corrected on this.
And the "450" would be in the SSP 564 engine under designation CXEB. Unfortunately neither the AUS configurator nor the brochures go down to that level details.
A kind of indication of these being "different generation engines" would be e.g. announced fuel consumption figures in the spec - significantly better for the "450". Actually the "450" being the most economical of all these!
Anyways, the spec for the "340" above is very similar to EU5 140PS engine (not the EU6 150PS). Also the torque vs. rpm values seem to support this theory.
When using "liters/100km" - the smaller figure the better.
Anyways, happy to stand corrected on this.
Actually there should be a sticker under the dash which has configuration information of your van, including exact engine type+power. Look for a code like e.g. CAAC, CFCA, CXHA, CXFA, CXEB. On top of timing belt cover there also might be a sticker having three first characters of the code. As the last resort a picture of the engine would allow forum members to identify it.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was hoping it was just a "tune" difference between the 2 but its looking like the differences go further. From what I can find out the 400 has an air to air IC where the 450 has a water / air IC for a start. No doubt different turbos as well.
Now I'm itching to get a 450!
Now I'm itching to get a 450!
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