tailgate - opening from inside?

scotia

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Hi, has anyone done a mod to be able to open the tailgate from inside?

whilst I've been converting the van we've had the panel off so it's been easy and practical to be able to do this...

i would therefore like to do it for when we camp in it!

Anyone done this on the T6? Is there a part number for the handle?

thanks
 

Pauly

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It's easy enough, the inner handle uses the same two wires that feed the outside handle, just tap into them both and wire a momentary (spring loaded) switch across them
OE switch is quite pricy as its a two parts and there is no illumination feed in the tailgate if the switch wasn't factory fitted so it won't light up anyway
 

scotia

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hi there, sorry you've lost me?!
I've just been pulling on the actuator to release the tailgate...

i was thinking i just need the inner handle and eventually a steel rod to pull up on the rocker (which is what i've been doing until now).

i dont see where a switch would come into it? is the opening not a mechanical movement? it looked like it i thought..
 

Pauly

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Think we have our wires crossed, T6s dont have an interior handle like T5s have they just have a one finger skinny switch to electrically release the tailgate lock (only comes standard on kombis, PVs dont get them unless factory ordered as an extra)
Only thing apart from this is the loop handle for pulling the tailgate down to close it, what do you have on your current setup ?
 

scotia

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Ah ok...we have a kombi 2015 but a swiss one so maybe it was an option as we dont have that..

we have the loop handle but no switch.

i was hoping to just fit a grab handle and then diy a yoke to pull the rocker that I've been pulling up to release the tailgate - seems this wont work then?!

would you be able to point me in the direction of the two wires i'd need to tap into? Any problems to do this? i dont have VCDS or really any possibility to find someone near me (garages in switzerland cost a fortune).. so i wont try it if its going to cause problems for the van..
 

Pauly

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Ok, its pretty straight forward, the interior release does the exact same job as the external handle and they are wired together so all you need to do if buy a momentary switch (one that is spring loaded and doesnt stay on, think doorbell push) and join it into the two wires that feed the external handle, when either switch is operated all it does is join these two cables together which sends a signal to the van to tell the tailgate to release which actuates a small motor and lifts the push rod you mention to release the tailgate lock
You could go down the OEM route and buy the VW switch if that is your preference but form memory its around £30-35 for the switch and trim piece or you can go to your local motor factors/hardware store and buy a switch for a couple pounds/francs
 

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Yes, switch would normally be off and momentarily on when pressed, commonly called 'push to make'
The opposite type of switch that you dont want would be 'push to break'
 

Pauly

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Thats a good point, but i suppose it depends on the type of switch used
Perhaps a vertical toggle switch would be best suited for this application so it requires to be raised to actuate the door, this would be similar to the OE switch or the switch could be mounted away from the tailgate, i know some conversions have them higher on the side wall so access is not blocked by a bed or similar in the rear
 

andys

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To make up for my idiocy on the H4 thread, I thought I'd post how I added an internal tailgate release in case it's any help to anyone else.

My tailgate has a fibreboard covering, don't know whether it was standard or whether the converters removed another panel and replaced it with this. Anyway, with that off you will see a little blue plug (unplugged in pic below). This is the two wires that need to be touched together to activate the release.File 04-06-2017, 16 07 21.jpeg

I cut into each of these wires and soldered additional wires. The connections were then heatshrunk and plugged the connection back in.File 04-06-2017, 16 08 49.jpeg

While I was at it, I put some Silentcoat on the inside of the hatch (took 7 sheets) as I noticed it had no insulation of any type. I also covered the back of the fibreboard with a layer of closed cell foam. I then got a boot release switch that I'd got off ebay (generic Ford switch, was about £6) and measured and cut a hole so that it would fit through the fibreboard into the top of the spaces on the inside of the hatch above. This isn't quite central but I needed the depth for the backside of the switch.File 04-06-2017, 16 08 16.jpeg

Connected up the switch and put the panel back and voila, I have an internal tailgate release. File 04-06-2017, 16 12 44.jpeg

It can't be knocked open by a load (not that there would be anything resting on mine anyway) as the actual microswitch is an upward press behind a membrane inside the handle.
I'm probably going to cover the fibreboard with vinyl or something and I'm going to fix hooks to it so that I can bungee traction mats and levelling ramps to it, which will fit neatly in the spaces between the tailgate and the furniture. Anyway, hope this helps, not a tricky job at all.
 

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On mine the tailgate locks when the van moves. This is a different functionality than "full" lock/unlock - which I haven't used.

Tailgate unlocks when either driver or passenger door is opened (LHD). Haven’t tried if the sliding doors have the same effect though (the bulkhead). Putting gear on N or P, or pulling handbrake or opening a window does not unlock the tailgate. So pretty much foolproof :thumbsup:. I haven't tried if central locking unlock button would release it.

So my thought was that this will take mostly care of accidentally opening tailgate by moving load hitting the switch etc.
Thus went for a big (32mm) momentary switch which allows me to open the tailgate with just straight single finger push. I have the power latch which might ease this a bit.
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Possibly the culprit is BCM (09) byte 01 bit 3 - which is ticked on mine (from the factory). Unfortunately I have never ticked off to verify…
Byte 01 Bit 3 Central Locking/Rear Lid: Speed depending locking over 5 km/h (Zentralverriegelung/Heckklappe: Geschwindigkeits basierte Verriegelung (ab 5 km/h))
as documented in post VCDS codes list
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trun

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To make up for my idiocy on the H4 thread, I thought I'd post how I added an internal tailgate release in case it's any help to anyone else.

My tailgate has a fibreboard covering, don't know whether it was standard or whether the converters removed another panel and replaced it with this. Anyway, with that off you will see a little blue plug (unplugged in pic below). This is the two wires that need to be touched together to activate the release.View attachment 9308

I cut into each of these wires and soldered additional wires. The connections were then heatshrunk and plugged the connection back in.View attachment 9309

While I was at it, I put some Silentcoat on the inside of the hatch (took 7 sheets) as I noticed it had no insulation of any type. I also covered the back of the fibreboard with a layer of closed cell foam. I then got a boot release switch that I'd got off ebay (generic Ford switch, was about £6) and measured and cut a hole so that it would fit through the fibreboard into the top of the spaces on the inside of the hatch above. This isn't quite central but I needed the depth for the backside of the switch.View attachment 9311

Connected up the switch and put the panel back and voila, I have an internal tailgate release. View attachment 9312

It can't be knocked open by a load (not that there would be anything resting on mine anyway) as the actual microswitch is an upward press behind a membrane inside the handle.
I'm probably going to cover the fibreboard with vinyl or something and I'm going to fix hooks to it so that I can bungee traction mats and levelling ramps to it, which will fit neatly in the spaces between the tailgate and the furniture. Anyway, hope this helps, not a tricky job at all.
Hi Andy. Thanks for the guide, I have received my momentary switch but wondered if there was any specific type of wire I need to use to make the connection? Cheers
 

Pauly

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Its switching a negative and doesnt carry any voltage or current so pretty much anything will do, personally i use 2 pieces of 0.5mm cable
 
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