ST Suspension ST XTA Coilovers
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No, the rear shocks are H&R's own with fixed damping - just in case, by adjustable I mean damping force. The rear springs have height adjusters, it's a proper coilover setup.
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KW part of the same consortium I understand make a variety of coil over set ups including adjustable damping bump and rebound adjustable ride height also they also do hydraulic lift!
Ok cool but I haven't run them so can't comment on if they're any good
Yes the STXA is a fully adjustable kit in both height and damping . We’ve fitted lots, and were the first to bring this and the STX to the market. As an adjustable they are great and work really well. They have been around for a while and technology has moved in a bit since.
For a static Coilover then our own Bilstein BMVS Editions are the best on the market in terms of ride and comfort and our top seller. If you want adjustable then the Solow NXts top the ranks.
Everything else on the market is just a Bit outdated now.
We run demo vehicles so you can try before you buy.
Happy to discuss options on the phone if it helps. We offer fitment on site will fill Hunter alignment and mail order.
HTH
For a static Coilover then our own Bilstein BMVS Editions are the best on the market in terms of ride and comfort and our top seller. If you want adjustable then the Solow NXts top the ranks.
Everything else on the market is just a Bit outdated now.
We run demo vehicles so you can try before you buy.
Happy to discuss options on the phone if it helps. We offer fitment on site will fill Hunter alignment and mail order.
HTH
Another recommendation here for the H&R Coilover setup supplied and fitted by @CRS Performance
Had them fitted in October 2020 and still very happy with this setup
Had them fitted in October 2020 and still very happy with this setup
Both the front and rear are height adjustable on the H&R coil over , 50 to 80 mm range with out mods , this is a way more sophisticated kit compared to all other offerings and the most reliable, cost effective kit there is .
No point paying more for the STXA kit because most suppliers dont know what the adjustment is for and how best to set it up. You simply wouldn't get the benefit , rather spend the £1000..00 on the STX kit or go for the H&R which is the market leading kit at £1450.00 This is the weapon of choice for Transporter sports converters like Van Haven , believe me , they have tried everything else .
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Genuinely interested in what makes other offerings outdated?
The technology has moved on massively.
All I will say to anyone considering Coilovers - make sure you try before you buy so you can absolutely make your own mind up, and not be told what is best. The amount of so called ‘best kits’ that are fitted elsewhere, we remove when they try our kits is incredible.
If certain kits are so good - why doesn’t the whole of the transporter businesses sell them - because we all know there are better kits available.
And money back guarantees - we heard of Customers being refused, so clearly not worth the paper it’s written on. We don’t need to offer this as our customers try before they buy and they know exactly what they are getting and are always happy with the results.
Oh and we always offer Hunter alignments with all of our suspension fitting , and have to correct and align others who has been elsewhere who have been told they don’t need aligning- with the modern setup and our roads you should get your alignment checked every 6 months to be safe and save tyre wear, improve economy.
We only sell kits by KW/St, Bilstein and Solow - because tried and tested they are the best on the market.
Hope that helps everyone looking for suspension - our doors are always open and the kettle on so you can come and make up your own mind. We’ve been going for over 100 years and specialising in transporters and suspension for over 20 years and just want to see people get the correct advice and not waste your money.
If certain kits are so good - why doesn’t the whole of the transporter businesses sell them - because we all know there are better kits available.
And money back guarantees - we heard of Customers being refused, so clearly not worth the paper it’s written on. We don’t need to offer this as our customers try before they buy and they know exactly what they are getting and are always happy with the results.
Oh and we always offer Hunter alignments with all of our suspension fitting , and have to correct and align others who has been elsewhere who have been told they don’t need aligning- with the modern setup and our roads you should get your alignment checked every 6 months to be safe and save tyre wear, improve economy.
We only sell kits by KW/St, Bilstein and Solow - because tried and tested they are the best on the market.
Hope that helps everyone looking for suspension - our doors are always open and the kettle on so you can come and make up your own mind. We’ve been going for over 100 years and specialising in transporters and suspension for over 20 years and just want to see people get the correct advice and not waste your money.
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There’s a massive difference between flogging/installing a suspension kit and selecting a suspension solution that is installed correctly so it meets the customer’s needs.
The “try before you buy” approach fails if a suspension choice is made based on trying out different kits on different vans with different load distributions. Equally, suspension solutions aren’t model dependent - I would be concerned if someone said “xyz is what you need for a T28…”
A wheel alignment check is important after a suspension change (as it is after a wheel swap out or even tyre changes!) But, remember that no matter how good/expensive the alignment equipment, it’s only as good as the idiot operating it! This forum is littered with tales of expensive wheel alignment changes being wrong because the operator ignored the additional weight of a converted van.
The “try before you buy” approach fails if a suspension choice is made based on trying out different kits on different vans with different load distributions. Equally, suspension solutions aren’t model dependent - I would be concerned if someone said “xyz is what you need for a T28…”
A wheel alignment check is important after a suspension change (as it is after a wheel swap out or even tyre changes!) But, remember that no matter how good/expensive the alignment equipment, it’s only as good as the idiot operating it! This forum is littered with tales of expensive wheel alignment changes being wrong because the operator ignored the additional weight of a converted van.
Ok, but what’s the difference in the technology? Or is this just valving/rate differences in the package? And moved on from what exactly?
I agree, we always listen to customer needs and wants and works out what's best for them - That's what needs to be done to qualify correctly. Luckily we have a minimum of around 20 vans at any times on our forecourt with different weight ratings, and suspension fitted, so try before you buy works really well for us and our customers, and has always been a massive selling point for us, and build confidence with the customers - Everyone has their own way of selling with customers, but to get someone out in a vehicle with the same suspension they are going to buy is the best way for for them to experience how different their vehicle will drive and perform . And of course one solution doesn't fit all, that why we have different options to offer.
Wheel alignment is massively important, and operator dependant - We are forever sorting out issues cause by incorrect fitment or alignment does elsewhere - We've had our hunter for around 5 years now and I would say its one of our busier ramps in the workshop - All of our techs have been trained to the highest standards in using it.
Some of horror fitting we see are incredible - Adjustders in the wrong place, wrong size drop links and poor alignment . Alignment need to be done correctly to get the best out of your suspension
As with everything in life, technology gets better. There is better valving, more shims and valves controlling the inbound and rebound, and the technology used for damper testing in the development process has improved. Springs have also improved too, giving ultimately a much better product Driving a van with an older kit back to back to one of the newer kits, you would feel the difference massively.
HTH
It’s only a given that digital technology improves as the cost of that improvement is often minimal. A company developing physical engineered products needs to see a real reason to develop as developing new products is expensive.
However your point about the testing ability of the manufacturer is I think critical. For example, I’ve seen the testing rig at KW in Germany in person, it’s very impressive (and I subsequently run KW on my Mini).
Ultimately though the improvements here are in narrowing in on a different set compromises for the conditions the van is driven in. What might work on a very low van in an urban environment might not be up to the task for dark country lanes when you can be forced into a pothole/grid by a logging truck.
I would argue that basic suspension technologies have not changed that greatly however, just a greater awareness that a wider spread of compromises is needed with the technologies that exist.
However your point about the testing ability of the manufacturer is I think critical. For example, I’ve seen the testing rig at KW in Germany in person, it’s very impressive (and I subsequently run KW on my Mini).
Ultimately though the improvements here are in narrowing in on a different set compromises for the conditions the van is driven in. What might work on a very low van in an urban environment might not be up to the task for dark country lanes when you can be forced into a pothole/grid by a logging truck.
I would argue that basic suspension technologies have not changed that greatly however, just a greater awareness that a wider spread of compromises is needed with the technologies that exist.
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